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Renrock
10-30-2008, 11:30 AM
This is one of the craziest ideas I've ever seen. On the EA forums , your account is linked with your Gamertag. If you get banned from the forums , then you will be banned from playing your EA games online. :eek:

http://kotaku.com/5070957/backtalk-ea-in-their-forums-get-banned-from-your-games

thoughts ?

vandalizemenow00
10-30-2008, 11:32 AM
That is absolutely rediculous. I understand if I get banned here for getting out of line. It is a free service, but to not be able to utilize the game which I have paid quite a bit of money for is completely wrong.

bermuddy
10-30-2008, 11:33 AM
I'm 50/50 on this.

HMXDave
10-30-2008, 11:34 AM
*Starts slow clap.*


That is absolutely rediculous. I understand if I get banned here for getting out of line. It is a free service, but to not be able to utilize the game which I have paid quite a bit of money for is completely wrong.

Acutally it can be considered a violation of the Terms and Services agreement that you accept before playing the games. It is completely within their rights.

sweet-t310
10-30-2008, 11:35 AM
*Starts slow clap.*

[walks forward and joins in clapping]

afterstasis
10-30-2008, 11:36 AM
i'd love to see bans become more strict (as in "permanent" and "more frequent"), but that is ridiculous.

brobot
10-30-2008, 11:38 AM
Well if you could actually get on the EA servers on some of the games it might matter.

O

kiggidykev
10-30-2008, 11:39 AM
I don`t know, I`m on the fence about this too. I hate Big Brother-type monitorig things, but there are positive aspects to this system.

For one, you`re not FORCED to make a forum account and talk to other people. No one`s forcing anyone to mouth off online or do anything otherwise to deserve a ban. In my opinion, the only people that should feel poorly about this are the ones that risk .

Of course, I`m a teacher and I strongly believe in accepting accountability for actions. :)

Apples
10-30-2008, 11:39 AM
This is SO a great idea. Of course I am a bit biased.

HMXDave
10-30-2008, 11:44 AM
This is SO a great idea. Of course I am a bit biased.

Could you imagine if they implemented this policy on these forums?

LMAO!!!

hmxhenry
10-30-2008, 11:54 AM
This is SO a great idea. Of course I am a bit biased.

The suggestion has already been forwarded to the rest of the Community Team.

topperharley
10-30-2008, 11:55 AM
not be able to utilize the game which I have paid quite a bit of money for is completely wrong

I agree. For the most part. If they could restrict it to an online lockout, that would make more sense. Because people who post inflammatory comments on forums are probably foul mouthed idiots online as well. But to prevent you from playing the single player aspect of a game that you paid for is out of line.

afterstasis
10-30-2008, 11:58 AM
Of course, I`m a teacher and I strongly believe in accepting accountability for actions. :)

oh, i am as well, but it's the big brother thing you mentioned earlier that gets to me, as well as the very notion of purchasing something and then having it effectively taken away by the same company.

i have no love for those who typically get banned (though i'm sure there are the occasional exceptions where an innocent coincidence could lead to a ban), but it really just seems like that person should just be IP-banned or maybe even locked out of their EA games temporarily.

i think that effectively snapping their game-discs in half is pretty harsh over some posts on a message board.

afterstasis
10-30-2008, 12:00 PM
i mean, basically, i just want to go post goatse all over EA's forums, y'know? ;)

brobot
10-30-2008, 12:01 PM
i mean, basically, i just want to go post goatse all over EA's forums, y'know? ;)

So you're that guy.:D

topperharley
10-30-2008, 12:05 PM
goatse

Something tells me I shouldn't Google that at work...

Apples
10-30-2008, 12:06 PM
Something tells me I shouldn't Google that at work...

or at home, or ever...

afterstasis
10-30-2008, 12:10 PM
different strokes for different folks...

apples convinced me to start posting here by luring me with a luscious goatse follwed by a hive-***.

back_blows
10-30-2008, 12:12 PM
Or lemon partied?

Dude. Seriously, I was just about to edit my post and add that.

brobot
10-30-2008, 12:15 PM
Dude. Seriously, I was just about to edit my post and add that.

Horrible people think alike. :D

Der_Lex
10-30-2008, 12:17 PM
I like this idea. Still, it'd only work for accounts that are linked to the game, which trolls are not likely to have.

afterstasis
10-30-2008, 12:22 PM
I like this idea. Still, it'd only work for accounts that are linked to the game, which trolls are not likely to have.

true.

i still think computers should be equipped with physical reinforcement tools, such as an electroshock-equipped keyboard, a "hot-mouse", and other inventive ways to punish those who refuse to play nice when taking part in online social circles.

perhaps EA could make their games compatible as well, so when you get zapped by a laser in your favorite FPS, your keyboard will make damn sure you know it.

HMXDave
10-30-2008, 12:26 PM
true.

i still think computers should be equipped with physical reinforcement tools, such as an electroshock-equipped keyboard, a "hot-mouse", and other inventive ways to punish those who refuse to play nice when taking part in online social circles.

perhaps EA could make their games compatible as well, so when you get zapped by a laser in your favorite FPS, your keyboard will make damn sure you know it.

Wait, they don't have that?

Then what the hell has been electrocuting me? :confused:

sweet-t310
10-30-2008, 12:29 PM
Or lemon partied?

Best line in television history, from 30 Rock:

[Liz Lemon is holding a party and her father Richard replies]
"It wouldn't be a Lemon party without Ol' Dick!"

vandalizemenow00
10-30-2008, 03:48 PM
I'm glad to see so many people are supporting this idea, but what if a Mod has a bad day, and you post something that you think is alright and the Mod would too under normal cercumstances, but since their wife hasn't given em any in a month they decide to bring the ban hammer down on you and now you can't play online with your band that is currently ranked in the top 50 in fans. You serve a one week suspension for something that is borderline at worst and you come back and your band has plummetted to 500. Since there is no way to appeal a ban and Mods are human and make mistakes, I feel it would be completely wrong to have the consequences for actions on this site extend into other areas.

If you robbed a bank in Indiana and served your time, should Ohio have the right to incarcerate for the same crime? If you were working two jobs and got fired from one job for making rude comments to a client, should the other job fire you as well? If you were married to two women and you got caught. Just kidding. The End.

Der_Lex
10-30-2008, 04:10 PM
I'm glad to see so many people are supporting this idea, but what if a Mod has a bad day, and you post something that you think is alright and the Mod would too under normal cercumstances, but since their wife hasn't given em any in a month they decide to bring the ban hammer down on you and now you can't play online with your band that is currently ranked in the top 50 in fans. You serve a one week suspension for something that is borderline at worst and you come back and your band has plummetted to 500. Since there is no way to appeal a ban and Mods are human and make mistakes, I feel it would be completely wrong to have the consequences for actions on this site extend into other areas.


First of all, if you had read the forum rules, you would know that on this forum mods don't ban people, admins ban people. The only way mods are involved in the banning process is by suggesting that some sort of action is taken against a poster who crossed the line to a point where a simple warning won't suffice. This means that there are two people who have to be in favor of a ban, so the possibility of 'person X had a bad day and unjustly banned someone' becomes a lot smaller, and that's assuming that it happens at all... I've yet to see someone on the moderation team censure or point out a user that didn't deserve it. The RB forums are pretty lenient, and only the worst of cases tend to get bans, and only the worst of the worst (and spammers, although that might be the same thing) get a perma-ban.

Secondly, some sort of appeal is always possible. Even if your account gets blocked, you could always e-mail HMX or EA about it and make your case. Moderators still answer to admins about the situation, who in turn are part of HMX and don't want to lose a good customer if said customer has truly done nothing wrong.

Finally, calling the moderators here human is highly debatable in some cases. :D

vandalizemenow00
10-30-2008, 06:13 PM
First of all, if you had read the forum rules, you would know that on this forum mods don't ban people, admins ban people. The only way mods are involved in the banning process is by suggesting that some sort of action is taken against a poster who crossed the line to a point where a simple warning won't suffice. This means that there are two people who have to be in favor of a ban, so the possibility of 'person X had a bad day and unjustly banned someone' becomes a lot smaller, and that's assuming that it happens at all... I've yet to see someone on the moderation team censure or point out a user that didn't deserve it. The RB forums are pretty lenient, and only the worst of cases tend to get bans, and only the worst of the worst (and spammers, although that might be the same thing) get a perma-ban.

Secondly, some sort of appeal is always possible. Even if your account gets blocked, you could always e-mail HMX or EA about it and make your case. Moderators still answer to admins about the situation, who in turn are part of HMX and don't want to lose a good customer if said customer has truly done nothing wrong.

Finally, calling the moderators here human is highly debatable in some cases. :D

Firstly: lol at the last line
Secondly: I was not aware that the mods didn't have the ban hammer(please don't get me banned for not reading the rules and just clicking the I accept the terms box).
Thirdly: I served a one week ban for something that I didn't think was anywhere near the line of getting banned. Maybe if I had read the rules I would have seen where posting the thread that got me banned was against the rules, but I would really hate to see what I percieved as an innocent mistake cost someone the ability to use the game they purchased to the fullest of its intended purpose.

Der_Lex
10-30-2008, 06:38 PM
Firstly: lol at the last line
Secondly: I was not aware that the mods didn't have the ban hammer(please don't get me banned for not reading the rules and just clicking the I accept the terms box).
Thirdly: I served a one week ban for something that I didn't think was anywhere near the line of getting banned. Maybe if I had read the rules I would have seen where posting the thread that got me banned was against the rules, but I would really hate to see what I percieved as an innocent mistake cost someone the ability to use the game they purchased to the fullest of its intended purpose.

I don't know, I'm very much in favor of anything that gets people to think a little more before they post. A good alternative might be the option of 'soft' and 'hard' bans. 'Soft' bans would only block you from accessing the forums, whereas 'hard' bans would block you from using the online features of the game as well. Along with a clear list on what kind of infractions can get you a certain type of ban, I think that'd be a very fair system.

Still, as I said earlier, you'd have to make linking your game to your forum account obligatory for this to have effect on the kind of bad offenders that you want to target with this, and I don't see that happening. I guess ridicule, scorn and the delete/edit post options will remain my best weapons in the battle against trollkind. :D

Rockin_it_all_nite_long
10-30-2008, 06:41 PM
WOW that sucks


but who goes on EA forums? lol...

benson111
10-30-2008, 06:47 PM
I am not in favor of this. No offense, but taking it to the game that was paid for, will indeed cost customers, no matter what kind of azzhat they are. On a side not, i have seen people on these forums get away with more than i have on "Other" forums.

I personally find that respect can still be givin, while being able to still voice your opinion. ;)

HeyRiles
10-30-2008, 06:50 PM
First of all, if you had read the forum rules, you would know that on this forum mods don't ban people, admins ban people. The only way mods are involved in the banning process is by suggesting that some sort of action is taken against a poster who crossed the line to a point where a simple warning won't suffice. This means that there are two people who have to be in favor of a ban, so the possibility of 'person X had a bad day and unjustly banned someone' becomes a lot smaller, and that's assuming that it happens at all... I've yet to see someone on the moderation team censure or point out a user that didn't deserve it. The RB forums are pretty lenient, and only the worst of cases tend to get bans, and only the worst of the worst (and spammers, although that might be the same thing) get a perma-ban.

Secondly, some sort of appeal is always possible. Even if your account gets blocked, you could always e-mail HMX or EA about it and make your case. Moderators still answer to admins about the situation, who in turn are part of HMX and don't want to lose a good customer if said customer has truly done nothing wrong.

Finally, calling the moderators here human is highly debatable in some cases. :D

I've wanted moderators to have ban hammers for some time, ever since the Runner fiasco. I really think moderators should have at least a temp-ban hammer for 24 hours or something for those late-at-night hooligans when HMX employees are asleep - or still slaving away underground, churning out nine songs a week - and then can be notified in the morning.

Seriously though, when was the last time the authors had sleep other than a power nap? Am I really to believe that you're all authoring one or two songs with every instrument a day, under normal work hours? No way.

JSchmidt85
10-30-2008, 08:32 PM
meh. against this idea. i've never been banned from here, and doubt it will ever happen. however, i was banned from scorehero because i was drunk and i posted bearfantasy.txt as a reply. if i did that here i'm sure i would be banned and i would be quite upset if i was banned from playing rb online

Renrock
10-30-2008, 09:21 PM
Some good replies. Guess I was more worried with the fact EA is affiliated with our beloved Rock Band , and it would be weird if they adopted this new procedure here.

I also agree with Lex in the fact that the real trolls wouldn't register their tags to being with.

( but can you imagine Meleeman if this took place !?!? )

Alright_Computer
10-30-2008, 09:49 PM
Is this all games published by EA or all games developed by EA?

Because I could not handle not playing Rock Band online. My head would asplode.

Eerif
10-30-2008, 09:57 PM
As Schmidt says,aAs much fun as drunk posting is...I may have to delete my browser shortcuts before a night of debauchery if this were to pass. Though I usually retain making an ass of myself to facebook, where only my friends, family and coworkers have to deal with it.

Alright_Computer
10-30-2008, 10:26 PM
Do they only ban you from playing EA online for the amount of time you're banned from the forums or do they ban you from playing EA online for good?