The Beatles: ROCK BAND - Rumors and Facts

[justin19954]

On Revolver Harrison mainly used a Fender Stratocaster. John was probably either using his Rickenbacker or a Gretsch. Why do you ask?

Well it's my favorite album and I love to cover the songs so I might as well try and get the best tone possible.

[thirdvegabrother]

AndywinXp is right, they were using Casinos, not Gretsch guitars. I always seem to get the two confused because they do looks somewhat similar. And I actually realized there was one more kind of guitar Harrison used during those sessions: a Gibson SG, which can be seen in the Paperback Writer and Rain videos.

[deadpool247]

I think there is a GREAT chance we'll get Hey Jude!


Will that include the F bomb that John said during the middle of the song? If so, I call dibs on saying that part in the harmony :D

[justin19954]

LOL that would be awesome if they kept that in.

[IErrantVentureI]

Will that include the F bomb that John said during the middle of the song? If so, I call dibs on saying that part in the harmony :D

Where at?

[Rod_Stixx]

Not to complain or anything...but can they just release the game already!?!? :D

[elitemastersam]

Is there some special date on which they will reveal a few more tracks and folks demoing them?

[Renrock]

RUMORED tracklist


"I Saw Her Standing There"
"Please Please Me"
"Twist and Shout"
"All My Loving"
"I Wanna Be Your Man"
"She Loves You"
"I Want to Hold Your Hand"
"A Hard Day's Night"
"And I Love Her"
"Can't Buy Me Love"
"I'm A Loser"
"Baby's in Black"
"I Feel Fine"
"Help!"
"Ticket to Ride"
"I've Just Seen a Face"
"I'm Down"
"Drive My Car"
"In My Life"
"If I Needed Someone"
"Day Tripper"
"Taxman"
"She Said She Said"
"And Your Bird Can Sing"
"Paperback Writer"
"Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"
"Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"
"Good Morning Good Morning"
"I Am the Walrus"
"Hello Goodbye"
"Revolution"
"Back in the USSR"
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps"
"Birthday"
"Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey"
"Helter Skelter"
"Hey Bulldog"
"Come Together"
"Something"
"Octopus's Garden"
"Here Comes the Sun"
"Don't Let Me Down"
"Dig a Pony"
"I've Got a Feeling"
"Get Back"

[Inaudible-Whisper]

No Strawberry Fields, A Day In The Life, Let It Be, Hey Jude, Happiness Is A Warm Gun and Across The Universe would be a great loss. I know those don't have prominent guitar work but they are some of their biggest hits and they would all be fantastic to sing. 'Birthday' over 'Happiness Is A Warm Gun'? Really?

Still, with such a vast catalogue it's virtually impossible to not have any unfortunate losses and also impossible to be bad. About what I expected really, though I guess I expected at least 2 or 3 of the aforementioned.

[RMThompson]

RUMORED tracklist


"I Saw Her Standing There"
"Please Please Me"
"Twist and Shout"
"All My Loving"
"I Wanna Be Your Man"
"She Loves You"
"I Want to Hold Your Hand"
"A Hard Day's Night"
"And I Love Her"
"Can't Buy Me Love"
"I'm A Loser"
"Baby's in Black"
"I Feel Fine"
"Help!"
"Ticket to Ride"
"I've Just Seen a Face"
"I'm Down"
"Drive My Car"
"In My Life"
"If I Needed Someone"
"Day Tripper"
"Taxman"
"She Said She Said"
"And Your Bird Can Sing"
"Paperback Writer"
"Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"
"Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"
"Good Morning Good Morning"
"I Am the Walrus"
"Hello Goodbye"
"Revolution"
"Back in the USSR"
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps"
"Birthday"
"Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except Me and My Monkey"
"Helter Skelter"
"Hey Bulldog"
"Come Together"
"Something"
"Octopus's Garden"
"Here Comes the Sun"
"Don't Let Me Down"
"Dig a Pony"
"I've Got a Feeling"
"Get Back"

Rumored from WHERE?

I doubt some of these.. mostly that "Sgt Peppers" wouldn't go right into "With a Little Help from My friends".

Also, 4 songs from Abbey Road, and then release that album first?

EDIT: I found the source of the leak:

http://www.ripten.com/2009/06/14/rumor-the-beatles-rock-band-set-list-leaked/

All in all... if this is the leaked list, I think I'd be OK.

[Ramirez16]

Also, 4 songs from Abbey Road, and then release that album first?.I really think the Abbey Road release is to get the medley in there without effecting the number of tracks on disc.

[thirdvegabrother]

No Rain on that rumored track list makes me sad, if that's actually the correct track list. Other than that, it's pretty good. The inclusion of "I'm Down" is really surprising considering while it's certainly a great song, it is a B-side that was never released on a studio album. It kinda falls into the same slot as Rain, but if it came down to a decision between the two, I'd rather have Rain.

BTW, one song that I don't think I've seen mentioned very much is Doctor Robert, also from Revolver, which I think would've made a great track for the game.

[quinaking]

Rain isn't there? I'm calling fake just because I have faith in Harmonix.

[Renrock]

Rumored from WHERE?
.

I saw it on Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/14/rumor-the-beatles-rock-band-track-list-leaked/#continued)

Who knows if it's true, but this is a rumors thread so fig'd I'd list it as a possibility. Sounds good at least ! :p

[General Lein979]

RUMORED tracklist
Lies....

I'm going to call this fake from the lacking of one song; Hey Jude. It is impossible to get the 50 year old women demographic without this song.

[Renrock]

I'm going to call this fake from the lacking of one song; Hey Jude. It is impossible to get the 50 year old women demographic without this song.

Meh, they gotta save something for DLC.

[elitemastersam]

Don't get me wrong, I love all of those songs in the rumored list, but there are some songs that just don't feature prominent guitar, bass, and drumming. Those particular songs would be more fitting for dlc imo. As would Hey Jude.

[HarrisonFan]

im loving the rumored setlist
dig a pony
dont let me down
come together
birthday
guitar gently weeps
me and my monkey

but what got me is they put in good morning good morning one of my favs

[justin19954]

I like it!

[Renrock]

lol , well , there goes that rumor. UPDATE!


A Harmonix spokesperson has confirmed to us that this leaked list of songs is definitely not the track list for The Beatles: Rock Band, saying, "The rumored 'leaked' list is not the disc track listing for The Beatles: Rock Band. We'll be announcing more tracks throughout the summer. Stay tuned to thebeatlesrockband.com for the most up to date information about disc songs and downloadable content!"

[justin19954]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO~&%#&^#^&!#!*&!

I still hope And Your Bird Can Sing and She Said She Said are still in!

[quinaking]

Thank God it is fake.

[Davisrocks]

I'm glad it was fake! I like having the tracks released a little bit at a time so it keeps me interested in the game (even though i think i would never loose any interest!)

[Rockbandfan23467]

Someone to a leaked list is fake tag.

[MisterSchulz]

Even if it were real, don't you think HMX would call it "fake" anyways, for PR/Marketing sake?

If it is real, kind of surprised not to see Got To Get You Into My Life, especially after Paul played that song with Beatles: RB footage in the background at his concert. Can't quite tell if the footage is of that song or not, but... who knows.

[username7410]

I'd be very happy with that tracklist! I think essentially everything not on the disc will end up being DLC anyway, so let's keep the disc nice and tidy with songs the fit well in the traditional Guitar, Bass, Drum format.

[harveyglobetrot]

I'm glad that setlist is "fake". I guess we will only know the extent of its 'fakeness' once the setlist is officially announced (or it could be another "the setlist is not 45 songs" type of deal).

Supposing it is/was real, I would be a little disappointed in it (by a little I mean knocking it from 10/10 to about 9.89/10). No Tomorrow Never Knows, A Day In The Life, Eight Days A Week, One After 909 or Strawberry Fields Forever is a bit disappointing. But I'm confident we would get all of them at some point, it would just be nice to know I could play some/all of those on 09/09/09

But I am strongly supportive of the inclusion of And Your Bird Can Sing in TB:RB. That is one song I really hope makes the on-disc cut.

[craven_trio]

A Harmonix spokesperson... "The rumored 'leaked' list is not the disc track listing for The Beatles: Rock Band."


Even if it were real, don't you think HMX would call it "fake" anyways, for PR/Marketing sake?

If it was the exact list for the game, with all 45/45 correct, I don't think they could really have a direct quote saying it's not the list.

Their usual behaviour was to neither confirm nor deny rumours/leaks/etc. for game song lists (and often, to quickly remove all unsubstantiated threads). Some of the RB2 list leaks ended up being pretty accurate and they supposedly changed their plans and put the whole setlist out at E3.

Anyway, from that HMX quote, 44/45 or 10/45 of the list could be perfect and it would still be "not the disc track listing for The Beatles: Rock Band." But when we know nothing about the source of the leak there's no reason to assume it's accurate. This game is incredibly easy to create fake "leaked" lists around the 10 known songs, just pick some popular Beatles songs and a few less well known ones with good guitar/bass/drums/vocal, put them in chronological order, and there you go. I might start a few rumours myself :D

[GloiGloi]

If it is real, kind of surprised not to see Got To Get You Into My Life, especially after Paul played that song with Beatles: RB footage in the background at his concert. Can't quite tell if the footage is of that song or not, but... who knows.

I don't think the footage was from that song because the song is from 66 and The Beatles in the footage looked like Beatles from 68.

[miche.cs]

No Rain on that rumored track list makes me sad, if that's actually the correct track list. Other than that, it's pretty good. The inclusion of "I'm Down" is really surprising considering while it's certainly a great song, it is a B-side that was never released on a studio album. It kinda falls into the same slot as Rain, but if it came down to a decision between the two, I'd rather have Rain.


To be fair even if that "fake" leaked track list had been real I wouldn't have been disappointed. It was def good enough like. And as Ren said a few posts back, they gotta keep something for DLC.

As for the inclusion of I'm Down instead of Rain...They used to end most the shows in 66 with I'm Down. So I'd imagine either the Budokan venue may end with that.

[Sayburr]

Added this to the OP: For a variety of technical and artistic reasons it made much more sense to all involved to have TB:RB available as it's own game. …we've done a pretty stand up job maintaining the platform mentality of RB over the last two years…and TB:RB shouldn't be viewed as a step away from that … The Beatles: Rock Band is simply a different game. It may make more sense to some people once we reveal more game details or once people actually get a chance to play. But I think if you ask people that got a hands on at E3 they'd tell you that this doesn't feel like a part of the RB universe. HMXHenry’s Post ( http://www.rockband.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2574613&postcount=30)

[iamtheddrman]

Someone to a leaked list is fake tag.
Wha?


Even if it were real, don't you think HMX would call it "fake" anyways, for PR/Marketing sake?

If it is real, kind of surprised not to see Got To Get You Into My Life, especially after Paul played that song with Beatles: RB footage in the background at his concert. Can't quite tell if the footage is of that song or not, but... who knows.
No they wouldn't. They neither confirmed nor definitively denied the 45 songs rumor. They matter-of-factly denied this setlist. To me, that means at least 1 track is wrong, or as many as 35 (since we know 10 are correct).

I'm in the camp that is glad the setlist was fake. There were several songs I didn't care for, but I hope "And Your Bird Can Sing" and "She Said She Said" make it into the final setlist! :)

[whofan]

Added this to the OP: For a variety of technical and artistic reasons it made much more sense to all involved to have TB:RB available as it's own game. …we've done a pretty stand up job maintaining the platform mentality of RB over the last two years…and TB:RB shouldn't be viewed as a step away from that … The Beatles: Rock Band is simply a different game. It may make more sense to some people once we reveal more game details or once people actually get a chance to play. But I think if you ask people that got a hands on at E3 they'd tell you that this doesn't feel like a part of the RB universe. HMXHenry’s Post ( http://www.rockband.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2574613&postcount=30)
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Henry for saying what myself and others have been saying ever since E3 (along with the fact that a mere expansion pack wouldn't have flown with the Beatles)

[mva5580]

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Henry for saying what myself and others have been saying ever since E3 (along with the fact that a mere expansion pack wouldn't have flown with the Beatles)

Exactly. Nice to see that thread closed, and hopefully all others after this will be promptly too.

They're not going to be exported. Deal with it.

[DMBillies]

Added this to the OP: For a variety of technical and artistic reasons it made much more sense to all involved to have TB:RB available as it's own game. …we've done a pretty stand up job maintaining the platform mentality of RB over the last two years…and TB:RB shouldn't be viewed as a step away from that … The Beatles: Rock Band is simply a different game. It may make more sense to some people once we reveal more game details or once people actually get a chance to play. But I think if you ask people that got a hands on at E3 they'd tell you that this doesn't feel like a part of the RB universe. HMXHenry’s Post ( http://www.rockband.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2574613&postcount=30)

Since that thread was closed immediately after HMXHenry posted, I just want to post here in regards to this quote, which was (at least in small part) directed at me. Basically, thank you, HMXguys, for finally making a direct post addressing this issue. It hasn't changed the answer on the export/compatibility issue when it comes to the Beatles, but at least it is a direct response to the situation and an indication that you know that some of your fans are very committed to the platform approach and would like to see a very strong commitment to that in the future. So, with that, I'd consider my job in voicing my opinion on this issue done...

[iamtheddrman]

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Henry for saying what myself and others have been saying ever since E3 (along with the fact that a mere expansion pack wouldn't have flown with the Beatles)
Agreed. A one-off game that deserves to be considered separate from the RB Universe doesn't constitute an abandonment of the "platform" idea. It should be considered an art project that happens to be a Beatles video game, rather than just a video game with Beatles songs. Based on that post though, I'm really curious what other changes they've made that we haven't noticed already.

[thirdvegabrother]

As for the inclusion of I'm Down instead of Rain...They used to end most the shows in 66 with I'm Down. So I'd imagine either the Budokan venue may end with that.

I have a feeling that if I'm Down ends up in the game, it'll be at Shea instead of the Budokan. It was the closer of their set that night. It would work for either though.

[whofan]

Agreed. A one-off game that deserves to be considered separate from the RB Universe doesn't constitute an abandonment of the "platform" idea. It should be considered an art project that happens to be a Beatles video game, rather than just a video game with Beatles songs. Based on that post though, I'm really curious what other changes they've made that we haven't noticed already.
I would say that the best way to look at it is an art project that draws it's influence from The Beatles and Rock Band, but is slightly distorted.

Much like the way Picasso or Salvador Dali draw influence from reality, but is slightly distorted.

[TheCulprit]

ATTENTION:

I'm flattered by all the media speculation, but the leaked list is a fake and I'm the culprit.

I've been deliberating a dreamlist since the game was announced and after the 10 songs were confirmed and the 45 song limit, I decided to use a little logic to create my own official dreamlist.

If you look at the list, you'll note my logic:
1. limit to 45
2. include 10 confirmed songs
3. include songs from cinematic
4. only include songs that would be applicable to the Rock Band platform
5. evenly distribute songs along the Beatles' career (you'll see that I limited myself to 3-4 songs per album with more for the White Album since it's twice as long, and filled the remaining space with singles)

Originally, it was only for my entertainment but made it's way to Wikipedia as an experiment to see how long it would take dilligent editors to revert bad edits. I believe Wikipedia is a good thing and fairly reliable, and was trying to prove my point. (I also included the names of the three free songs from GameSpot as "I Don't Want to Spoil the Party" "Getting Better" and "Free As a Bird" but everyone seemed to overlook that). My fake list was removed within the hour which was good for my experiment and as far as I believed no one would ever really see it.

I never dreamed that my Wikipedia experiment/TB:RB dreamlist would ever reach this forum, the media outlets that have speculated my list, or to cause a Harmonix spokesperson to make a statement. In fact, when I first heard of a leaked list I thought it must have been some other list, but reading the articles confirmed that it is mine (even in the order I wrote it in -- a sort of flawed chronological order [i just stuck the singles in whereever it felt right]).

I know some of you will choose not to believe this post because it is just as easy to fake a confession as it is to fake a setlist. But I assure you all the list is my creation, and was never intended to cause any harm to anyone. I never expected any of you to hear about it.

Here is a link to my original edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Beatles:_Rock_Band&oldid=295295346

You'll note this is the oldest instance of the list long before this media speculation and THIS is the original source of the list.

I apologize for any dissapointment, or anger. Sorry Harmonix -- I respect what you guys do and am anxiously awaiting the real list just like everyone else.

I really never meant for my fantasies to come to this level of attention.

Now... let the beating commence.

[iamtheddrman]

I would say that the best way to look at it is an art project that draws it's influence from The Beatles and Rock Band, but is slightly distorted.

Much like the way Picasso or Salvador Dali draw influence from reality, but is slightly distorted.
Well said. I couldn't find the words, but that's what I was trying to get across. It's an art project focused around the Beatles, first and foremost. It's made by the people who make Rock Band, so of course the gameplay is similar. However, it's so different than the standard Rock Band platform that I can't see them merging the Beatles game with the platform without it feeling awkward or looking strange. I'm convinced that McCartney/Starr realized this and decided that it was a completely separate game or nothing. They're all about the integrity of their music and their names, so it just makes sense.

^ :eek:

v That. It's either an alt someone created to avoid backlash, or an alt someone created to draw attention to themselves :D

[Renrock]

So the culprit is TheCulprit . . . interesting. :D

[HeyRiles]

Yes, I have the incredible ability of quoting locked threads


Sorry if you feel like the answers haven't been satisfactory. For a variety of technical and artistic reasons it made much more sense to all involved to have TB:RB available as it's own game.

Hopefully you read this, Henry. I have one question that I haven't been able to get an answer for so far. Somebody at E3, I can't remember who exactly, stated that TB:RB should be viewed as its own standalone game and NOT a part of the Rock Band platform

I'm fine with the fact that it won't be exportable, but my question is this - why slap on ': Rock Band' to the end of The Beatles if it has nothing to do with Rock Band? It's quite a bit of false advertising is what it is, and serves only to garner a few more sales, from what I can tell

[whofan]

So the culprit is TheCulprit . . . interesting. :D
I smell a plot! TheCulprit is a corporate pattsy!!! The big corporations are trying to hide the involvement of government sponsered aliens in poisoning our brains with false information!!

I can see the truth though! I have my little tin hat on!

[whofan]

Yes, I have the incredible ability of quoting locked threads



Hopefully you read this, Henry. I have one question that I haven't been able to get an answer for so far. Somebody at E3, I can't remember who exactly, stated that TB:RB should be viewed as its own standalone game and NOT a part of the Rock Band platform

I'm fine with the fact that it won't be exportable, but my question is this - why slap on ': Rock Band' to the end of The Beatles if it has nothing to do with Rock Band? It's quite a bit of false advertising is what it is, and serves only to garner a few more sales, from what I can tell
Really Riles? The answer isn't obvious? I've been saying it since before E3.

BRAND RECOGNITION! RB is fighting an uphill battle with GH right now, and in order to get that all-important name into minds of people, what better than putting it on a game that is built off the basic concepts of RB and millions of people (both fans of these games and ones who have never bought a rhythm game befoer) will buy.

[iamtheddrman]

Really Riles? The answer isn't obvious? I've been saying it since before E3.

BRAND RECOGNITION! RB is fighting an uphill battle with GH right now, and in order to get that all-important name into minds of people, what better than putting it on a game that is built off the basic concepts of RB and millions of people (both fans of these games and ones who have never bought a rhythm game befoer) will buy.
Yeah it's definitely brand recognition. It's still a Rock Band game (guitar, bass, drums, vox with a RB-like interface) just with enough structural changes to warrant being separate from the central platform.

It's kinda like how GH stuck with the GH name even after they made it a full band game. Band Hero wouldn't have the same recognition as Guitar Hero, and some people might even think it was just a cheap rip-off of Guitar Hero (like people thought Rock Band was when it first came out).

[HeyRiles]

Really Riles? The answer isn't obvious? I've been saying it since before E3.

That's why I said


It's quite a bit of false advertising is what it is, and serves only to garner a few more sales, from what I can tell

[iamtheddrman]

That's why I said
How is it false advertising? It's not gonna have a sticker on the box that says "Play over 700 songs in the RB platform" like RB3 would have. The name is there so people know it's similar to the basic Rock Band, but focused entirely on the Beatles as well.

[whofan]

How is it false advertising? It's not gonna have a sticker on the box that says "Play over 700 songs in the RB platform" like RB3 would have. The name is there so people know it's similar to the basic Rock Band, but focused entirely on the Beatles as well.
What he said.

There's no false advertising here. The Rock Band name only means "exportability" to the 0.1% of people who frequent here. 99.9% of people aren't even going to notice the difference between this and Rock Band 2.

[TheCulprit]

This is ammusing. I thought people would be all down my throat, but either no one believes me or no one cares. Suits me though. My conscience is clear.

[iamtheddrman]

This is ammusing. I thought people would be all down my throat, but either no one believes me or no one cares. Suits me though. My conscience is clear.
It's all good man. It was a fake list, and was quickly denied. What is there to get all riled up about? If you're for real about it, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

[harveyglobetrot]

ATTENTION:

I'm flattered by all the media speculation, but the leaked list is a fake and I'm the culprit.

...

Here is a link to my original edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Beatles:_Rock_Band&oldid=295295346



It's OK. Personally, though, if you were to do it again I would choose a much better group of songs. ;)

I think there is a listen in it for the media (and everyone else, in fact): don't trust stuff on Wikipedia. As you say, it is usually a pretty good resource (and I'll usually use it as a first port of call for reading up on topic I know little/nothing about), but this sort of thing shows why it should never be trusted unquestioningly.

Where you went wrong was saying a "former HMX employee". I was under the impression that all former employees have their memories wiped a la Men In Black, so they don't reveal the horrific secrets contained within HMX HQ. :D

[TheCulprit]

I appreciate your chill attitude.

[whofan]

This is ammusing. I thought people would be all down my throat, but either no one believes me or no one cares. Suits me though. My conscience is clear.
Meh, most of the time we're a pretty laid-back bunch.

But if you want someone to jump down your throat....

YOU PIECE OF CRAP!!! You ru1N3d mY DREAMS!!! 1 w1LL KEEL you!!!

[HeyRiles]

In my eye, it IS false advertising. This game has nothing to do with Rock Band, much like how Guitar Hero I and II have nothing to do with Rock Band - all it is is developed by the same company

Now, I wouldn't mind if on the back of the disc it said 'From the makers of Rock Band!' But placing the name of a separate game in the title of the new game to garner more interest and/or sales? It bothers me, a lot

[TheCulprit]

Haha, perhaps. My first idea was an Activision spy but I thought that was a little over the top. As far as the quality, to each his own, but this is the list that would make me happiest... well except the only trade off was I would have preferred "I Don't Want to Spoil the Party" to "Baby's In Black" and "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" to "Something" but I was trying to make it believable and marketable.

[iamtheddrman]

In my eye, it IS false advertising. This game has nothing to do with Rock Band, much like how Guitar Hero I and II have nothing to do with Rock Band - all it is is developed by the same company

Now, I wouldn't mind if on the back of the disc it said 'From the makers of Rock Band!' But placing the name of a separate game in the title of the new game to garner more interest and/or sales? It bothers me, a lot
I has EVERYTHING to do with Rock Band though. Do you think GH:A and GH:M shouldn't have had the GH name on them? It's the same basic gameplay, with the same instruments, with a VERY similar interface (only changes to the interface I've seen have been aesthetic). There are certainly differences between the two games, but TB:RB is very much deserving of the Rock Band name.

v That too

[whofan]

In my eye, it IS false advertising. This game has nothing to do with Rock Band, much like how Guitar Hero I and II have nothing to do with Rock Band - all it is is developed by the same company

Now, I wouldn't mind if on the back of the disc it said 'From the makers of Rock Band!' But placing the name of a separate game in the title of the new game to garner more interest and/or sales? It bothers me, a lot
Welcome to the Real World. (I'm picturing the chorus of "Real World" when reading your post "This Can't Be The Real World Now! I Don't Believe It, When I Can't See The Truth! Welcome To The Real World Now! The Old Are Carried In Only To Poison Youth, Am I The Only One Who Thinks It's Tragic, 'Cause I Know, This Can't Be The Real World Now!")

This is the way that companies survive, by marketing their name in ways that will attract the maximum amount of attention.

It is a saavy marketing move to draw in fans of The Beatles and put the Rock Band name at the forefront of their memories when playing the game. A RB reference in the title will carry MUCH more water than a "From the makers of.." sticker on the back.

[ArchangelZero]

In my eye, it IS false advertising. This game has nothing to do with Rock Band, much like how Guitar Hero I and II have nothing to do with Rock Band - all it is is developed by the same company

Now, I wouldn't mind if on the back of the disc it said 'From the makers of Rock Band!' But placing the name of a separate game in the title of the new game to garner more interest and/or sales? It bothers me, a lot

It has the Rock Band name, but in all due respects, it's an entirely separate game (to all of you who will use this comment to undermine the whole "no export" thing), and it should be treated as such. However, it is still Rock Band, or at least in a different part of Rock Band from everything else...

[Renrock]

While I understand the reasoning behind doing it, I agree with Riles.

If RockBand is the platform, everything with the RockBand label should have song connectivity with the other releases.

[ArchangelZero]

While I understand the reasoning behind doing it, I agree with Riles.

If RockBand is the platform, everything with the RockBand label should have song connectivity with the other releases.

The thing is, the reasoning behind connectivity (and we really don't need to go further into the whole song thing) is most likely the contract. It's a separate game, but the core of it is still Rock Band...

[HeyRiles]

I has EVERYTHING to do with Rock Band though. Do you think GH:A and GH:M shouldn't have had the GH name on them? It's the same basic gameplay, with the same instruments, with a VERY similar interface (only changes to the interface I've seen have been aesthetic). There are certainly differences between the two games, but TB:RB is very much deserving of the Rock Band name.

No, Aerosmith and Metallica should have the Guitar Hero name on it because it was a literal port of their respective generations of game. The only literal change between GHIII and GH:A, and GH:WT and GH:M was the band playing the songs (and Expert Plus in GH:M, and, if I recall correctly, adding in HO/POs immediately after sustains in GH:A). Nothing else was different

With TB:RB, you have harmonies, you have all-new instruments, you've got graphically changed note highways, you've got a separate venue or video-type-background for nearly every song, you've got a lack of drum fills, and most importantly, you've got completely exclusive DLC for TB:RB only. It is literally not a port of RB2, it's been stated that this game was built from the ground up, and should not be slapped with a Rock Band tag if there isn't a way in which this game can communicate with the Rock Band platform

But this is all just in my own opinion, of course - I guess I just thought that with all the things Harmonix has done in the past - RB1 export, DLC compatability, awesome bands, everything available, all that good stuff - I would think that Harmonix was above something of this sort. Maybe I'm just spoiled rotten, I dont' know

[whofan]

No, Aerosmith and Metallica should have the Guitar Hero name on it because it was a literal port of their respective generations of game. The only literal change between GHIII and GH:A, and GH:WT and GH:M was the band playing the songs (and Expert Plus in GH:M, and, if I recall correctly, adding in HO/POs immediately after sustains in GH:A). Nothing else was different

With TB:RB, you have harmonies, you have all-new instruments, you've got graphically changed note highways, you've got a separate venue or video-type-background for nearly every song, you've got a lack of drum fills, and most importantly, you've got completely exclusive DLC for TB:RB only. It is literally not a port of RB2, it's been stated that this game was built from the ground up, and should not be slapped with a Rock Band tag if there isn't a way in which this game can communicate with the Rock Band platform

But this is all just in my own opinion, of course - I guess I just thought that with all the things Harmonix has done in the past - RB1 export, DLC compatability, awesome bands, everything available, all that good stuff - I would think that Harmonix was above something of this sort. Maybe I'm just spoiled rotten, I dont' know
Put the two side by side with anybody out there that isn't pre-disposed to calling TB:RB false advertising (That is to say anybody that is completely unbiased), and they'll probably tell you that it's the same game with a different skin and a couple of extra features..... Much like GH: Metallica is.

[ArchangelZero]

But this is all just in my own opinion, of course - I guess I just thought that with all the things Harmonix has done in the past - RB1 export, DLC compatability, awesome bands, everything available, all that good stuff - I would think that Harmonix was above something of this sort. Maybe I'm just spoiled rotten, I dont' know

I still go with contracts and liscensing on this one. It was the reason why we couldn't get Run to the Hills, Paranoid, or Enter Sandman onto the export...

You need to feel what's it's like to be a Wii Rock Band player...then you'll feel so privileged to even have the option of exporting...

[HeyRiles]

Put the two side by side with anybody out there that isn't pre-disposed to calling TB:RB false advertising (That is to say anybody that is completely unbiased), and they'll probably tell you that it's the same game with a different skin and a couple of extra features..... Much like GH: Metallica is.

Well THAT would have to depend on how you pose the question. If you said 'Does The Beatles: Rock Band look like Rock Band to you?' then yeah, they would all say yes. But if you said 'Does this Beatles game remind you of any other rhythm games?' then there would be a mix of answers that are 'Looks like Rock Band,' 'Looks like Guitar Hero,' and 'Looks like both Rock Band and Guitar Hero'

But that's a completely different discussion, and not really a part of the current one, I apologize

[iamtheddrman]

No, Aerosmith and Metallica should have the Guitar Hero name on it because it was a literal port of their respective generations of game. The only literal change between GHIII and GH:A, and GH:WT and GH:M was the band playing the songs (and Expert Plus in GH:M, and, if I recall correctly, adding in HO/POs immediately after sustains in GH:A). Nothing else was different

With TB:RB, you have harmonies, you have all-new instruments, you've got graphically changed note highways, you've got a separate venue or video-type-background for nearly every song, you've got a lack of drum fills, and most importantly, you've got completely exclusive DLC for TB:RB only. It is literally not a port of RB2, it's been stated that this game was built from the ground up, and should not be slapped with a Rock Band tag if there isn't a way in which this game can communicate with the Rock Band platform

But this is all just in my own opinion, of course - I guess I just thought that with all the things Harmonix has done in the past - RB1 export, DLC compatability, awesome bands, everything available, all that good stuff - I would think that Harmonix was above something of this sort. Maybe I'm just spoiled rotten, I dont' know
Duly noted. I don't think your opinion is invalid, I just disagree. Allow me to play Devil's Advocate a little more?

GH:M's Expert+ could be argued as a "major" change as it added a whole new difficulty, which would be quite similar to adding vocal harmony (a new difficulty of sorts for vocals). Also, GH:M had a unique Metallica-themed interface in the menus and the note highways, just like TB:RB. Aerosmith pretty much was a port, so I'll concede that for sure.

GH:M had specific venues based on the band's career, just like TB:RB. The drum FILLS are missing, but the Overdrive is activated the exact same way (hitting that green note at the end of the phrase), so that's hardly a big difference in anything but audio. The "all-new" instruments are just prettier versions of the RB2 instruments, and you don't have to buy the new instruments. I can use my RB2 instruments or even GH instruments and the game will never know the difference. While I LOVE the idea of the Dreamscapes, they're really just an in-depth version of the music video venues from RB2. Remember the "Everlong" video that had all the pretty colors? You get that venue when you play the song in Quickplay, so it's not something new, just more of something we already have (with a unique twist that it is unique to each of the studio year songs).

Game Export is the BIG difference here. And I think that's what you're focusing on, with good reason. I'm not happy that it's not exportable/importable, but I understand the reason for it. I hope that later on they're able to export the songs to RB3 or something, but I won't regret buying the game.

/devil's advocate

[whofan]

Well THAT would have to depend on how you pose the question. If you said 'Does The Beatles: Rock Band look like Rock Band to you?' then yeah, they would all say yes. But if you said 'Does this Beatles game remind you of any other rhythm games?' then there would be a mix of answers that are 'Looks like Rock Band,' 'Looks like Guitar Hero,' and 'Looks like both Rock Band and Guitar Hero'

But that's a completely different discussion, and not really a part of the current one, I apologize
Actually, you missed the main part of the experiment, that is put them side by side.

Therefore you would have to ask something along the lines of "Do you believe that these are completely different games?"

You're arguing a point that is completely asinine in all honesty. It's obvious why the Rock Band name is put on there, and it makes complete sense if you look at it from a neutral point of view.

[HeyRiles]

That's fine, you both have your opinions on what should be in the title and I have mine. I don't really have much else to add, I would just like to hear the point of view from a HMX worker is all. Or just ban me, Henry, for opposing, whichever

'You no like our game name? NO POST FOR YOU!'

[iamtheddrman]

That's fine, you both have your opinions on what should be in the title and I have mine. I don't really have much else to add, I would just like to hear the point of view from a HMX worker is all. Or just ban me, Henry, for opposing, whichever

'You no like our game name? NO POST FOR YOU!'
LOL BAN HIM! j/k :p

Like I said, I see where you're coming from and was just playing Devil's Advocate. Sometimes perspective can change a person's opinion, sometimes not.

[KISSfan84]

*SIGH*
I've said it before,and I'll say it again:
Rock Band is there for recognition and marketing.
The people who play RB and GH make up only one piece of the gaming community. The average Joe (whom TB:RB is trying to pull in) doesn't really know the difference between RB and GH. They'll look at the setlists and buy based on that and the pretty pictures on the box. If the local Wal Mart has TB:RB and GH5 and the 10 other GH games sitting side by side, a LOT of people will assume it's all the same, just different packaging. Even the people working at most of these stores can't tell you the difference. Having Rock Band on the box at least gives some assurance that some of these people are going to look and realize these are 2 different and separate things. Otherwise, John Q. Public will buy TB:RB and love it, and the next time he wants to buy a music game, he'll go back to the same store and tell the 67 year old store lady, "I really liked that Beatles game, do you have any other Geetar Heero games?"
.....*takes a breath*.....
OK?
:cool:

[HeyRiles]

*SIGH*

I think you just skimmed everything. I KNOW why Rock Band is included in the title, I'm explaining WHY I don't like it

[KISSfan84]

I think you just skimmed everything. I KNOW why Rock Band is included in the title, I'm explaining WHY I don't like it

I've read every post in this thread.
You just don't like the answers people give you.

[HeyRiles]

I've read every post in this thread.
You just don't like the answers people give you.

...Are you serious? Are you a fool?

[Sayburr]

I think you just skimmed everything. I KNOW why Rock Band is included in the title, I'm explaining WHY I don't like it

I am indifferent. But I understand why its on there. Brand recognition. Just like KISSfan84 said, this way new that person who has never played a rhythm game before walks into a store they will ask for a Rock Band game not a Guitar Hero game. Harmonix would not have been very smart if they didn’t put their brand on the game.

So, I see why. But, what ever… export or no export, the decision has been made and now we all must live with it and move on.

[KISSfan84]

...Are you serious? Are you a fool?

Here we go with the name calling...

[HeyRiles]

Here we go with the name calling...

Sigh...if you had read the posts, you would have seen a discussion regarding why I don't LIKE the idea of the Rock Band name on the game, not why I don't UNDERSTAND the name being on there. You would have seen a good discussion about why Harmonix did it and why I thought it shouldn't be so - nowhere did I ever get angry or call anyone a fool because I 'don't like the answers people give' me.

You're giving an explanation that nobody was asking about is what I'm saying

[vertrothe]

Those who think the game will be too simple should try playing an instrument and sing harmony (or lead) at the same time. After all, the original band only had four lads, not six.

The beauty of the Beatles game, IMO, is the fact that for the first time complex harmony becomes part of the gaming experience.

Nailed it!

I'll admit, I'm a giant Beatles fan(boy), so I'm 'One Of Those Guys'. ie) the type who'd buy the game no matter what. Still, the idea of playing and singing and doing the harmony and all that is a HUGE selling point for this game. And those who are critical of a (perceived) lack of difficulty should get off their duffs and try singing and playing. Especially when you're having to follow harmony, this is a great challenge, and a long-awaited step up for those who find playing even on Expert to be 'too easy'.

Try being a Beatle and see how easy it is!

Extra points if you can do the trademark head waggles while playing. :D

[cherokeesam]

If HMX slapped the RB name on the game to ride The Beatles' coattails, they're going to get the same "what! no export?!" sh*tstorm all over again, but in reverse.

How smart is it to put your label on The Beatles' game to hopefully lure fans into buying RB2, only to have them flame out as soon as they find out they can't play their precious Beatles tunes in the "new" game?

Consolidate, people. Integrate.
It's all in the mix.
Isolation breeds decay.

Or, in other words: standalone band games still suck royally.

[Sayburr]

Extra points if you can do the trademark head waggles while playing. :DI think that part will be a gimme... I can't imagine trying to sing certain songs without the "waggle".

[Sayburr]

If HMX slapped the RB name on the game to ride The Beatles' coattails, they're going to get the same "what! no export?!" sh*tstorm all over again, but in reverse.
Yep, I have a feeling your right about that... "What do you mean I can play RB1 and RB2 songs but can't play The Beatles in RB3. I only bought RB3 because I liked The Beatles so much... "

Yep, while I just don't give a crap anymore now that I know the game is a rental only for me, I dread hearing this same debate in six to twelve months.

[hmxhenry]

Hopefully you read this, Henry.

Aw, you know I have to read everything. It's my job, and it's why I never sleep.


I would think that Harmonix was above something of this sort. Maybe I'm just spoiled rotten, I dont' know

I'm happy to chalk this up to you just being spoiled rotten. :)

Seriously though, I don't know what the ultimate deciding factor was for picking a name for TB:RB. I do know that there was no malicious forethought, and the name wasn't concocted with the deliberate intent of "tricking" people.

I do think, along the lines of being "spoiled rotten", that we've set the bar pretty high for ourselves with the Rock Band name. We've said (and shown) that we're devoted to making Rock Band a platform for music gaming, but the unspoken interpretation on the forums has been to read that as "Anything bearing the RB name will definitely be backwards and forwards compatible, exportable, and will have weekly DLC". But, to my knowledge, that's only something that people have assumed based on our track record and not a claim that we've ever made.

We are, of course, still dedicated to the platform ideal, and we'll continue to build on that week in and week out with DLC as well as with future RB releases. And hopefully the name of TB:RB won't prevent you from enjoying it.

[HeyRiles]

Can you send me a free t-shirt?

[whofan]

Aw, you know I have to read everything. It's my job, and it's why I never sleep.



I'm happy to chalk this up to you just being spoiled rotten. :)

Seriously though, I don't know what the ultimate deciding factor was for picking a name for TB:RB. I do know that there was no malicious forethought, and the name wasn't concocted with the deliberate intent of "tricking" people.

I do think, along the lines of being "spoiled rotten", that we've set the bar pretty high for ourselves with the Rock Band name. We've said (and shown) that we're devoted to making Rock Band a platform for music gaming, but the unspoken interpretation on the forums has been to read that as "Anything bearing the RB name will definitely be backwards and forwards compatible, exportable, and will have weekly DLC". But, to my knowledge, that's only something that people have assumed based on our track record and not a claim that we've ever made.

We are, of course, still dedicated to the platform ideal, and we'll continue to build on that week in and week out with DLC as well as with future RB releases. And hopefully the name of TB:RB won't prevent you from enjoying it.
Wow, Sean was really serious when he said that the Community team would be more involved going forward.

What are they doing to you guys? Have they pulled out the whips?

[hmxhenry]

Can you send me a free t-shirt?

AFTER YOU CALLED ME OUT AND MADE ME LOOK LIKE A FOOL BECAUSE I PUT RB STICKERS ON ALL THOSE BOXES?!

No dice. :p

[hmxhenry]

Wow, Sean was really serious when he said that the Community team would be more involved going forward.

What are they doing to you guys? Have they pulled out the whips?

HA! There's always been whips.

[whofan]

HA! There's always been whips.
So now they've got the new Omnilash 9000 with improved snapback?

Seriously though, it's great to see a team that has always been involved in the community continue that commitment and step it up just that little bit more!

Keep up the amazing work!!!!

[HeyRiles]

AFTER YOU CALLED ME OUT AND MADE ME LOOK LIKE A FOOL BECAUSE I PUT RB STICKERS ON ALL THOSE BOXES?!

No dice. :p

Darn...what if you sent me the boxes and I'll remove the stickers for you?


HA! There's always been whips.

I do really like how all you guys are so involved here as well. It's always extremely informative and extremely awesome

[KISSfan84]

Sigh...if you had read the posts, you would have seen a discussion regarding why I don't LIKE the idea of the Rock Band name on the game, not why I don't UNDERSTAND the name being on there. You would have seen a good discussion about why Harmonix did it and why I thought it shouldn't be so - nowhere did I ever get angry or call anyone a fool because I 'don't like the answers people give' me.

You're giving an explanation that nobody was asking about is what I'm saying

You're asking HMX to give a reason for why--I gave you the why, and that's really the entire answer in a nutshell, but apparently, that isn't the proper answer you want. It was the same for the whole export debate; people didn't want to hear/accept what the answer was. I understand the issue with the exportability--it's shame but that was never going to be a deal breaker for me any way. The argument of why Rock Band is on the box is an extension of the exportability debate. The reasons are simple and obvious to anyone who knows even a little about marketing, but there's been a core group who won't accept it and are trying to make HMX say EXACTLY what the deal is. Like that's really going to make some difference. The incessant complaining about both issues borders on childish at best. People have given valid, spot-on answers to those questions, and still, people keep asking why.
I just don't get it...

[HeyRiles]

You're asking HMX to give a reason for why

Nope

[KISSfan84]

Yes, I have the incredible ability of quoting locked threads



Hopefully you read this, Henry. I have one question that I haven't been able to get an answer for so far. Somebody at E3, I can't remember who exactly, stated that TB:RB should be viewed as its own standalone game and NOT a part of the Rock Band platform

I'm fine with the fact that it won't be exportable, but my question is this - why slap on ': Rock Band' to the end of The Beatles if it has nothing to do with Rock Band? It's quite a bit of false advertising is what it is, and serves only to garner a few more sales, from what I can tell

There it is, in black and white...

[hmxhenry]

Let's simmer down now. People asked some questions, I answered as best I could. It doesn't really matter who asked what.

[KISSfan84]

Let's simmer down now. People asked some questions, I answered as best I could. It doesn't really matter who asked what.

Sorry, Henry. It's just that I don't take kindly to being called a fool when I debate valid points.
:cool:

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

while an HMX employee is in here: will the songs in the Abbey Road medley be separate or sold as one complete movement? Or is that still being discussed?

[iamtheddrman]

while an HMX employee is in here: will the songs in the Abbey Road medley be separate or sold as one complete movement? Or is that still being discussed?
The answer to that question will most likely be: "We cannot comment on that at this time. We'll let you know in an announcement as soon as possible."

[justin19954]

I HATE that answer, :(

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

The answer to that question will most likely be: "We cannot comment on that at this time. We'll let you know in an announcement as soon as possible."

as soon as possible to them is probably months from now. Damn bureaucrats. :D

[Rod_Stixx]

If the medley is split up into a bunch of different songs, I think I will cry. I'd still be thrilled to be playing the songs, but I'd cry a bit first. Maybe there is a way to allow them to be picked separately, yet offer a choice to select them as playable together as on the album?

[Harrison1969]

can i ask a question or is it to late?

[Rod_Stixx]

I don't think it is ever too late to ask a question. Ask away my Beatle-y friend...

I'm sure somebody here will have the answer. It may be the right answer, the smart-ass answer...or sometimes both.

[whofan]

can i ask a question or is it to late?

I'm sorry, you've used up your question quota for this week with that question, please try again next week.

[Rockbandfan23467]

as soon as possible to them is probably months from now. Damn bureaucrats. :D

They say the world looks down on the bureaucrats
They say we're anal, compulsive and wierd
But when push comes to shove you gotta do what you love
Even if it's not a good idea
:D

[justin19954]

Rockbandfan whats so wrong with Yoko?

[whofan]

Rockbandfan whats so wrong with Yoko?
Don't you know?

Yoko was sent by Satan himself to destroy the power of The Beatles because they were getting too strong and he was worried about them finally being able to destroy him and usher in an era of complete worldwide peace!

[justin19954]

Well Yoko didn't end the Beatles, they did themselves. They were all at their throats during Abbey Road. Yoko might have a done a little bit, but they were gonna break up either way.

[theeggman]

Rockbandfan whats so wrong with Yoko?

That.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqCpvzXGTE

[whofan]

Well Yoko didn't end the Beatles, they did themselves. They were all at their throats during Abbey Road. Yoko might have a done a little bit, but they were gonna break up either way.
I was being sarcastic....

I am well-aware of the tensions of the time, and am one of the few Yoko defenders around here.

[justin19954]

That.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqCpvzXGTE

OK besides that, she didn't do anything.

[justin19954]

I was being sarcastic....

I am well-aware of the tensions of the time, and am one of the few Yoko defenders around here.

Oh alright cool. I don't like all the hate Yoko gets.

[whofan]

Oh alright cool. I don't like all the hate Yoko gets.
It's very undeserved. However, many can't seem to come to terms with the fact that the breakup was inevitable and try to find some kind of scapegoat.

All of their music from the post-Epstein years clearly shows that they were all moving in very opposite directions and it was obvious that it wouldn't be able to co-exist within a group setting like that for very long.

[justin19954]

It's very undeserved. However, many can't seem to come to terms with the fact that the breakup was inevitable and try to find some kind of scapegoat.

All of their music from the post-Epstein years clearly shows that they were all moving in very opposite directions and it was obvious that it wouldn't be able to co-exist within a group setting like that for very long.

Yeah I agree, peoples first reason for them breaking up is Yoko. It takes a while for me to explain that it wasn't to my friends.

[Rod_Stixx]

A lot of people think Yoko broke things up in the end. Others think there was already tension in the band. It is actually much more sinister than that.

Let's just say that Pete Best, Yoko, Imelda Marcos and Fifth Beatle Clarence Walker met in a cafe in London one day in 1966, and the seeds of the Beatles' destruction were sown that day. Damn conspiracies!

[justin19954]

Maybe they killed Paul! :eek:

[username7410]

Who cares why they broke up. Let's just be happy that they did... otherwise the would of ended up tarnishing their legacy by going on and on like The Rolling Stones.

[cherokeesam]

Who cares why they broke up. Let's just be happy that they did... otherwise the would of ended up tarnishing their legacy by going on and on like The Rolling Stones.

In a way, I'm glad they broke up, too, because in a "team" setting, they probably wouldn't have gotten the band's approval for all the post-Beatle solo hits they came up with in the 70s and 80s, including "Imagine," "Band on the Run," "It Don't Come Easy" and "My Sweet Lord."

[Harrison1969]

i think Yoko did do it she probably told John that he would be better off by him self

and if you think about it songs like Imagine and My Sweet Lord were maybe written as they were beatles to be a beatle song

[GloiGloi]

That.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqCpvzXGTE

Are we getting that as DLC? :eek:

Seriously though, I actually prefer the stuff she did like "Why" (Great drumming on that from Ringo!) to her less avant garde type of things like were on Double Fantasy.

[harveyglobetrot]

Sayburr, courtesy of kingtonyx in this thread (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2578240#post2578240): individual players can choose to play on no-fail.

[iamtheddrman]

Sayburr, courtesy of kingtonyx in this thread (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2578240#post2578240): individual players can choose to play on no-fail.
Nice. I thought that was linked to picking Easy, but it'll be nice to be able to have a single person on Medium on No Fail so I can encourage my family to play more.

Also, kingtonyx's custom is awesome, unofficially.

[harveyglobetrot]

Nice. I thought that was linked to picking Easy, but it'll be nice to be able to have a single person on Medium on No Fail so I can encourage my family to play more.

Also, kingtonyx's custom is awesome, unofficially.

Yeah, I read that in the OP just after I posted above. I'm hoping that it goes beyond just making Easy = no fail. It would be cool to make it available for all the difficulties, so that someone looking to move from Easy to Medium etc. can try it and not have to worry about failing out, ending the song etc.

And I agree with you, totally offically. :D

[whofan]

i think Yoko did do it she probably told John that he would be better off by him self

and if you think about it songs like Imagine and My Sweet Lord were maybe written as they were beatles to be a beatle song
Wow! Man alive!

Just wow!

In the end it doesn't matter what Yoko told John, it was only a matter of time before he left the group (or others did). Look at the diversity of styles shown on albums such as "Magical Mystery Tour" and "The Beatles" (The White Album), both of these albums were worked on before Yoko came into the picture as John's confidant.

The break-up was completely inevitable as each member wanted a bigger share of the spotlight (especially between John, Paul and George) and wanted their version of The Beatles to triumph (George wanted a more Eastern sound in the group, Paul wanted to stay in the Pop field and John wanted to do more Experimental stuff). Heck, the wouldn't even record together for the "The Beatles" sessions! And the only reason why "Abbey Road" got down was because George Martin forced them to work together harmoniously in the studio after they begged him to return as their producer.

Watch documentaries like "Let It Be" and "Anthology" and you will see the real reasons for the break-up.

[Sayburr]

Sayburr, courtesy of kingtonyx in this thread (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2578240#post2578240): individual players can choose to play on no-fail.
According to another note that is on the OP: and that there’s a super-accessible No Fail toggle right on the song-select screens.

If the No Fail toggle is on the song select screen how can individual players choose no-fail? The toggle would have to be on the instrument select screen.

I am going to skip that one for now as I had not heard that before now and that is the only place I have heard it from...

[RMThompson]

Wow! Man alive!

Just wow!

In the end it doesn't matter what Yoko told John, it was only a matter of time before he left the group (or others did). Look at the diversity of styles shown on albums such as "Magical Mystery Tour" and "The Beatles" (The White Album), both of these albums were worked on before Yoko came into the picture as John's confidant.

The break-up was completely inevitable as each member wanted a bigger share of the spotlight (especially between John, Paul and George) and wanted their version of The Beatles to triumph (George wanted a more Eastern sound in the group, Paul wanted to stay in the Pop field and John wanted to do more Experimental stuff). Heck, the wouldn't even record together for the "The Beatles" sessions! And the only reason why "Abbey Road" got down was because George Martin forced them to work together harmoniously in the studio after they begged him to return as their producer.

Watch documentaries like "Let It Be" and "Anthology" and you will see the real reasons for the break-up.

Agreed, although Yoko was around for the White Album, in fact makes a mini-cameo.

"Let it Be" shows that Paul really wanted to take over the group, and was starting to disagree with George's stance of never playing LIVE... and he was saying all of this to John was staring blankly on.

Still, with the disappointment of the "Let it Be" album, I like to believe without the untimely death of John there might've been room for a reunion, considering John's album was selling fantastically, and he had called Paul a few days before to tell him he was excited to get back into the industry.

[whofan]

Agreed, although Yoko was around for the White Album, in fact makes a mini-cameo.

"Let it Be" shows that Paul really wanted to take over the group, and was starting to disagree with George's stance of never playing LIVE... and he was saying all of this to John was staring blankly on.

Still, with the disappointment of the "Let it Be" album, I like to believe without the untimely death of John there might've been room for a reunion, considering John's album was selling fantastically, and he had called Paul a few days before to tell him he was excited to get back into the industry.
I think that The White Album was started (but not finished) before Yoko came into the picture, but I have been wrong before.

Anyways, I agree full-heartedly. John was really excited to be back and it showed in his last works. As you said, a reunion probably wasn't too far off before his death. Things seemed to have cooled off with Paul, George and Ringo (with them showing up occaissionally on each other's solo records).

Alas, we'll never know thanks to that absolute moron and his dumb-ass book (I hated "The Catcher In The Rye" before I knew that the idiot who shot Lennon was using it, and now I just plain despise the book).

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

Yoko Ono is the concept by which I measure my pain.

[liaminh]

Are we getting that as DLC? :eek:

Seriously though, I actually prefer the stuff she did like "Why" (Great drumming on that from Ringo!) to her less avant garde type of things like were on Double Fantasy.

My favorite Yoko song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78DT-XLS_do

[DMBillies]

I hated "The Catcher In The Rye" before I knew that the idiot who shot Lennon was using it, and now I just plain despise the book).

In fairness, you can't blame a book for the actions of a sociopath...


And... I am really glad to see rumors of actual new features in the game (e.g., individual no-fail). I will be much more forgiving of using the RB name without export if there are honest-to-goodness added features that really help to address some of the issues the community has been clamoring about (e.g., if individual no-fail is an option, could individual lane speeds be as well?).

That's the stuff I'm most excited to hear about.

[jay4428]

Just saw this this morning, not sure if its been posted yet. Nothing completely new but interesting nonetheless.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-2978-E3-2009--The-Beatles--Rock-Band-Interview.html

[harveyglobetrot]

Just saw this this morning, not sure if its been posted yet. Nothing completely new but interesting nonetheless.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-2978-E3-2009--The-Beatles--Rock-Band-Interview.html

Oh man, when I saw xbox360achievements.com I thought we were going to see the achievements for the game! :eek: They are usually good for a few hints about what will be contained in a game.

Still, not a bad interview. I like how the HMX chap highlighted the challenge in the game being singing and playing an instrument. Do as The Beatles did, and discover that it is not so easy.

[whofan]

Well, at least we now know what the red ooze that will leak out of the box will be :P

[GloiGloi]

My favorite Yoko song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78DT-XLS_do

I admit it took me years to get in to those tracks but I like them now. This was a great rhythm section let loose, playing behind Yoko.

[hmxhenry]

Sayburr, courtesy of kingtonyx in this thread (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2578240#post2578240): individual players can choose to play on no-fail.

Reposting my comment from the thread this originally appeared in:

This is not so much a new detail as it is a misinterpretation of a new detail. What I believe they meant to say was TB:RB would have the "ability to put individual people on no-fail by having them play on Easy".

I hope that clears up any confusion. For the real 411 on TB:RB info (BOO YAH!) please keep posted to the Announcements forum.



I am going to skip that one for now as I had not heard that before now and that is the only place I have heard it from...

And that's why we let you dive the Rumor and Facts threads. :)

Sayburr, so diplomatic, so wise.

[whofan]

Reposting my comment from the thread this originally appeared in:

This is not so much a new detail as it is a misinterpretation of a new detail. What I believe they meant to say was TB:RB would have the "ability to put individual people on no-fail by having them play on Easy".

I hope that clears up any confusion. For the real 411 on TB:RB info (BOO YAH!) please keep posted to the Announcements forum.



And that's why we let you dive the Rumor and Facts threads. :)

Sayburr, so diplomatic, so wise.
Come on Henry! Old buddy! Old pal! Can't you let us in on a little scoop?

Don't you remember all the good times we used to have together? Didn't they mean anything to you?

One unannounced song, that's all I ask!

[Rod_Stixx]

Cool that there is a vocal trainer with the harmony notes for people who aren't as familiar with the harmonies. At this point, we're just over 2.5 months out.

[IErrantVentureI]

Don't you wish they'd change the release date to oh... July 9th, or something? I can't wait anymore.

[deadpool247]

Oh man, when I saw xbox360achievements.com I thought we were going to see the achievements for the game! :eek: They are usually good for a few hints about what will be contained in a game.

Still, not a bad interview. I like how the HMX chap highlighted the challenge in the game being singing and playing an instrument. Do as The Beatles did, and discover that it is not so easy.


I came up with at least 30 guessed achievements, so I'd like to know if at least one came true.

[TVRobot]

just in case HMX happens to read THIS post:

I can understand as to why TB: RB won't be exportable, BUT does that mean that The Beatles: Rock Band will be patched on occasion to include features in any future Rock Band game release? (i dont know if that made sense or not :P ). for example: a couple months before RB3 comes out HMX thinks of some really cool game mode that theyre gonna put in RB3. would that mean that TB: RB would be getting said feature in a patch?

P.S. apologies if this has already been discussed

[RockBandRocker]

Reposting my comment from the thread this originally appeared in:

This is not so much a new detail as it is a misinterpretation of a new detail. What I believe they meant to say was TB:RB would have the "ability to put individual people on no-fail by having them play on Easy".

I hope that clears up any confusion. For the real 411 on TB:RB info (BOO YAH!) please keep posted to the Announcements forum.



I don't know. In one of the videos I watched from one of your presentations, I could swear John Drake said you could toggle "no fail" in the instrument select screen & that Easy = automatic no fail.

It was one of the videos from the 'Zine that you posted a link to in the E3 wrap-up thread.

[RMThompson]

Yeah Id like there to be a Medium no fail mode for some of the better singers... but really, if you're worrying about them failing out at all, Easy is fine.

[iamtheddrman]

Yeah Id like there to be a Medium no fail mode for some of the better singers... but really, if you're worrying about them failing out at all, Easy is fine.
To me, it would be a great help to people trying to make the jump to the next difficulty. I remember back in GH1 when I tried to move from Medium to Hard and from Hard to Expert, I failed out a LOT and it was really frustrating. No Fail for a single person easily accessible from the Song Select screen could really encourage them to give a harder difficulty a shot.

[hmxhenry]

I don't know. In one of the videos I watched from one of your presentations, I could swear John Drake said you could toggle "no fail" in the instrument select screen & that Easy = automatic no fail.

It was one of the videos from the 'Zine that you posted a link to in the E3 wrap-up thread.

Believe me, after standing next to HMXjohnd for around 30 of those demos there's no way I'll ever be able to forget his talking points. :)

Yes, you can toggle No Fail mode from the instruments select screen, but you can only turn No Fail mode on or off, not assign it to specific instruments. Selecting Easy as your difficulty will automatically turn No Fail mode on for that particular instrument and that specific player and will not affect the rest of the band.

I hope that clears things up.


To me, it would be a great help to people trying to make the jump to the next difficulty. I remember back in GH1 when I tried to move from Medium to Hard and from Hard to Expert, I failed out a LOT and it was really frustrating. No Fail for a single person easily accessible from the Song Select screen could really encourage them to give a harder difficulty a shot.

Then feel free to use No Fail mode! Instrument specific No Fail mode seems a bit excessive when you have a blanket No Fail mode available to you. I'm sure there are plenty of people playing on Easy, Medium, Hard, or Expert that would benefit from playing with No Fail mode... and that's why we have No Fail mode. That way they can all play together without having to worry about who is playing what on what difficulty. Having a more blanket No Fail mode seems to take care of all those variable in one clean stroke.

[iamtheddrman]

Believe me, after standing next to HMXjohnd for around 30 of those demos there's no way I'll ever be able to forget his talking points. :)

Yes, you can toggle No Fail mode from the instruments select screen, but you can only turn No Fail mode on or off, not assign it to specific instruments. Selecting Easy as your difficulty will automatically turn No Fail mode on for that particular instrument and that specific player and will not affect the rest of the band.

I hope that clears things up.



Then feel free to use No Fail mode! Instrument specific No Fail mode seems a bit excessive when you have a blanket No Fail mode available to you. I'm sure there are plenty of people playing on Easy, Medium, Hard, or Expert that would benefit from playing with No Fail mode... and that's why we have No Fail mode. That way they can all play together without having to worry about who is playing what on what difficulty. Having a more blanket No Fail mode seems to take care of all those variable in one clean stroke.

Thanks for the quick clarification! It's nice to hear a detailed explanation of exactly how it works.


Yeah, instrument-specific No Fail does seem excessive now that I think about it. No reason not to just turn on the full thing. It's nice that it'll be easy to toggle though, as I'll be having RB parties and we swap instruments up a lot. Some of my rhythm-lacking friends could use No Fail, but it's no fun backing all the way out to the main menu.

[Explosion2]

While we've got HMXHenry here,
I play on expert, so this doesn't really concern me, but I would assume that people playing on Easy could still progress through story mode, even though Easy is automatically no-fail. Would I be correct, or am I asking for too much?

[hmxhenry]

While we've got HMXHenry here,
I play on expert, so this doesn't really concern me, but I would assume that people playing on Easy could still progress through story mode, even though Easy is automatically no-fail. Would I be correct, or am I asking for too much?

Only asking too much for right now, as we haven't really discussed the story mode too much at this time. As we move forward we'll have more details so we should be able to address your question then. Keep posted!

[Explosion2]

Only asking too much for right now, as we haven't really discussed the story mode too much at this time. As we move forward we'll have more details so we should be able to address your question then. Keep posted!
no problem, I figured I was asking for too much. Thanks for the quick response though.
This is why this community rocks. You guys are so actively involved around here.

[Minimaul]

In preparation for TB:RB I've been practicing my playing and singing. Yesterday I played some of the easier songs on medium drums (my normal level) and easy vocals. I can do some of the easier songs OK and if the I know the lyrics it's obviously a lot easier. so singing harmony / chorus shouldn't be too bad. This game is gonna rule.

[Rod_Stixx]

Yeah, I'm not too worried on most songs with harmonies and playing drums. I haven't played much guitar recently, so I may be pretty rusty when I play that initially with TBRB. When I play RB with my gf, I usually drum and always do the backing vocals/harmonies when they're in a song (obviously w/ no mic or scoring). So I'm all ready to go in that department.

I'm just wondering what will happen when I take the game down to visit family in September, and they try to sing the harmonies. My older brother is also a hardcore Beatles fan, so he knows 'em, but the rest of them probably will probably be all over the place trying to hit the harmonies. I'm guessing they'll just end up singing the lead.

[IErrantVentureI]

I can't sing and drum at the same time. Just can't. I can voxtar. But not Voxdrum.

Sorry if this has been answered before, but do we know our three songs that come with a Gamestop preorder?

HMX HENRY!

Does no fail mode effect achievements in Beatles either by playing on easy or just putting it on for everyone?

[Ramirez16]

I can't sing and drum at the same time. Just can't. I can voxtar. But not Voxdrum.I can but what I use to the mic, rather goofy, doesn't keep the mic still so it's hard to.

[justin19954]

I was just watching Anthology (Amazing movies. They're on Youtube if you want to watch them) and they came to the part where Brian Epstein dies. I'm wondering if this game will say anything about this. I mean it is a big turning point in their careers. I just hope theres a homage to him in this. He was a great man that didn't deserve to die at such a young age.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

I was just watching Anthology (Amazing movies. They're on Youtube if you want to watch them) and they came to the part where Brian Epstein dies. I'm wondering if this game will say anything about this. I mean it is a big turning point in their careers. I just hope theres a homage to him in this. He was a great man that didn't deserve to die at such a young age.
I'm sure he will appear in the cutscenes. The bigger question, however, is will they mention his sexuality.

[OakTea]

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-2978-E3-2009--The-Beatles--Rock-Band-Interview.html[/url]"]If you really want to get deeper into the harmonies, we have a training mode, like in Rock Band, where you can go in and listen to the notes behind each individual vocal line. So if you wanted it to be like, “oh, I want to be the high harmony,” you can go and practice that and come back and sing it. It’s pretty cool ...

Emphasis mine. This is pretty amazing! According to this interview, it looks like we'll be able to hear the notes behind the melodies.

I'm going to be safe and assume that if this is correct, it means we'll be hearing tones that play the notes we should be hitting, and not that they separated all three vocal parts. :p

[whofan]

I'm sure he will appear in the cutscenes. The bigger question, however, is will they mention his sexuality.
Why?

What does his sexuality have to do with anything important?

Furthermore, WHO CARES?

[harveyglobetrot]

Why?

What does his sexuality have to do with anything important?

Furthermore, WHO CARES?

This.

The sexual inclinations of Brian Epstein have no relevance upon the music of The Beatles or the nature of this game.

[RMThompson]

Why?

What does his sexuality have to do with anything important?

Furthermore, WHO CARES?

+1

Why does it matter? Should they mention when The Beatles cheated on their respective wives/girlfriends? Will they mention John and Brian's Spanish getaway that some have questioned as being sexual?

The answer to these, and all related questions is:

NO

This game is about The Beatles MUSIC. While it would be nice to see Brian mentioned, and George Martin, Billy Preston, etc... I think it will strictly be The Beatles and The Beatles ONLY!

[Minimaul]

Yeah, I'm not too worried on most songs with harmonies and playing drums. I haven't played much guitar recently, so I may be pretty rusty when I play that initially with TBRB. When I play RB with my gf, I usually drum and always do the backing vocals/harmonies when they're in a song (obviously w/ no mic or scoring). So I'm all ready to go in that department.

I'm just wondering what will happen when I take the game down to visit family in September, and they try to sing the harmonies. My older brother is also a hardcore Beatles fan, so he knows 'em, but the rest of them probably will probably be all over the place trying to hit the harmonies. I'm guessing they'll just end up singing the lead.

yeah, that's cool.

I guess what'd I'd try to do is when I'm playing with people is to go; "alright, fools. Singer does the main vocals which is the blue colored line, I'll do the red harmonies and you do the green harmonies!" (or whatever the colored lines represent). I'm sure at first it'll be weird, but once you learn the songs and get them down it should be alright. and it won't 'hurt' anyone by singing the wrong harmony, so that's cool too.

I Want You (She's So Heavy), Paper Back Writer, oh yeah! If we get those song it will be awesome for vocals - and I'm not even a good singer and I'm looking forward to it!

[harveyglobetrot]

yeah, that's cool.

I guess what'd I'd try to do is when I'm playing with people is to go; "alright, fools. Singer does the main vocals which is the blue colored line, I'll do the red harmonies and you do the green harmonies!" (or whatever the colored lines represent). I'm sure at first it'll be weird, but once you learn the songs and get them down it should be alright. and it won't 'hurt' anyone by singing the wrong harmony, so that's cool too.

I Want You (She's So Heavy), Paper Back Writer, oh yeah! If we get those song it will be awesome for vocals - and I'm not even a good singer and I'm looking forward to it!

You're in luck - given the prominent positioning that Paperback Writer receives in the absolutely brilliant TB:RB opening cinematic (http://www.thebeatlesrockband.com/cinematic.php), it would appear very likely that Paperback Writer will be in the game. It's not confirmed, obviously, but I would take it as a solid indication that it will be in the game.

[justin19954]

Alright, but I still hope that they mention him.

[Minimaul]

Sweet! I get TB:RB for a month and a half then then Forza 3! My life is over as I know it!

I think the cool thing about TB:RB is that even if we don't get our own personal favorite songs, we will still end up with bunch of great music. So it's not like we'll have 45 songs and a handful of songs we like. Since (most) people getting the game are fans people will end up liking a larger number of the songs as they all are great.

With RB2 out of the 84 songs there was probably 15% of the songs that I liked and wanted to play (after playing some I learned to like others, but initially I didn't). Where-as with the Beatles (as a fan, obviously) the % is much, much higher. So far out of the songs we know I want to play each and every one of them.

I'm just kind of blabbering on, so don't mind me. I'm just stoked for this game.

[harveyglobetrot]

Sweet! I get TB:RB for a month and a half then then Forza 3! My life is over as I know it!

I think the cool thing about TB:RB is that even if we don't get our own personal favorite songs, we will still end up with bunch of great music. So it's not like we'll have 45 songs and a handful of songs we like. Since (most) people getting the game are fans people will end up liking a larger number of the songs as they all are great.

With RB2 out of the 84 songs there was probably 15% of the songs that I liked and wanted to play (after playing some I learned to like others, but initially I didn't). Where-as with the Beatles (as a fan, obviously) the % is much, much higher. So far out of the songs we know I want to play each and every one of them.

I'm just kind of blabbering on, so don't mind me. I'm just stoked for this game.

Agree 100%. For instance, I really want Tomorrow Never Knows to be an on-disc release. If it isn't, I will be a little upset but I will think of the 45 tracks I get on disc (most of which I love) and be confident that it will eventually come as DLC. Plus it isn't like GH:Metallica/Van Halen/Aerosmith-for-half-the-disc-and-friends-for-the-rest, this is going to be 100% Beatle-y goodness.

And don't worry about babbling on too much. I've been getting all evangelical with my friends about the game as well. Some I've really annoyed, others I'm getting through to. I just can't wait for 09/09/09 to come!

[justin19954]

Yeah, I just hope that they don't just pick #1s. Most great Beatles songs are hidden in the albums.

[harveyglobetrot]

Yeah, I just hope that they don't just pick #1s. Most great Beatles songs are hidden in the albums.

The two RB setlists thus far give me hope that HMX are going to do the right thing. Sure, a lot of their hits are brilliant and deserve to be on-disc, but some of the deeper cuts will really please The Beatles aficionados. I'm sure that they will get the balance right. Plus, from a purely cynical/business perspective, they will want 'hits' left over to drive DLC sales.

[harveyglobetrot]

For the record, we do intend to have a sub forum for TB:RB. HMXsean and I will have more info in the future, but the release is still roughly 3 months away so we may have to sit tight for a while. Thanks for the suggestion!

It seems like this venerable thread may have to move to a new home at some point in the future.

Hopefully they do it sooner rather than later. Although it's not as bad as E3 week at the moment, it is still difficult to see (The Beatles) forest from the (RB) trees.

[Minimaul]

I'd assume they'll create the section a few weeks before the release. Cause in the first week or two before the release the hype-train will be going full bore and it'll get crazy in here!

exactly 12 weeks till the game hits. :o

[harveyglobetrot]

I'd assume they'll create the section a few weeks before the release. Cause in the first week or two before the release the hype-train will be going full bore and it'll get crazy in here!

exactly 12 weeks till the game hits. :o

That's what I'm assuming as well. It's at least a month or two away. Since the hype for this game is exponentially greater then for RB:U, I can see it going up earlier then it did, but if it's up more than a moth out from release, I would be surprised.

I'm imagining it will like E3 x 100 in here in the days before and after the release date. I'm just waiting for the first thread from someone claiming to have gotten a copy of the game. Guaranteed he/she/it will have 1 post to their name.

[BenPatient]

has anyone seen this yet?

http://attitude.adforum.com/top5/2009/06/16/the-beatles-rock-band-the-beatles-passion-picutres/

I can't figure out exactly what it was that I just watched. An ad? Official or unofficial?

Paperback Writer wasn't on the list of confirmed songs, was it? Looks like it's a go-go for inclusion based on the amount of time they have given it in this new video. (which is amazing, BTW)

Better than the trailer, I would say...maybe this is the game intro?

EXCITED!

[harveyglobetrot]

has anyone seen this yet?

http://attitude.adforum.com/top5/2009/06/16/the-beatles-rock-band-the-beatles-passion-picutres/

I can't figure out exactly what it was that I just watched. An ad? Official or unofficial?

Paperback Writer wasn't on the list of confirmed songs, was it? Looks like it's a go-go for inclusion based on the amount of time they have given it in this new video. (which is amazing, BTW)

Better than the trailer, I would say...maybe this is the game intro?

EXCITED!

Quite correct, my friend: this is the opening cinematic for TB:RB. It was premiered at the E3 conference two weeks back. It is brilliant, isn't it?

Paperback Writer hasn't been confirmed yet (ditto A Hard Day's Night), but from the prominence they are granted in the opening video it would appear likely that they are in the game (which, if true, isn't a huge surprise).

[deadpool247]

Will we have the option to mix and match costumes? I mean, I want John to wear what he had on the cover of Abbey Road, but I wanted Paul to wear his Sgt. Pepper outfit, and so on.

[harveyglobetrot]

Will we have the option to mix and match costumes? I mean, I want John to wear what he had on the cover of Abbey Road, but I wanted Paul to wear his Sgt. Pepper outfit, and so on.

No one knows, but the suspicion is is that the costumes, venue etc. will be closely tied to the song being played. So, for instance, you probably won't be able to play I Am The Walrus at the Cavern Club, or I Wanna Hold Your Hand on the Apple Records rooftop.

[iamtheddrman]

Sweet! I get TB:RB for a month and a half then then Forza 3! My life is over as I know it!

I'm just kind of blabbering on, so don't mind me. I'm just stoked for this game.

You sound exactly like me! :eek:
I've been blabbering about every little thing to my friends (who are relatively casual Beatles fans) and my family (who are REALLY casual fans) and I get a lot of "...and?" looks from them. I'm a little over-excited I guess, lol.

Forza 3 looks AMAZING though. I used to be a GT fanboy and hated the idea of Forza 1, but Forza 3 looks about graphically equal with GT5 and no doubt features the better physics engine. GT5:P is just flat out annoying to drive because it feels so wrong. I can't wait to get my 400+ cars and 100 track configs to race on!

[Northern_Blitz]

No one knows, but the suspicion is is that the costumes, venue etc. will be closely tied to the song being played. So, for instance, you probably won't be able to play I Am The Walrus at the Cavern Club, or I Wanna Hold Your Hand on the Apple Records rooftop.

I think that will be true for story mode. Maybe quickplay will allow more flexibility.

[Moony_Lupin]

I hope quickplay will allow more flexibility with where you play what songs and where. I'm all about the being true to the times and songs, but I would really like to play a set of my choice on the rooftop. I know this isn't realistic for the studio songs, but I really don't care.

Now, for career mode or whatever, I expect to play certain songs in specific venues and have no options with that.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Epstein's sexuality inspired them to write "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away".

[Rod_Stixx]

It would be kind of fun to be able to mix up the venues where they are playing the songs in quickplay, but I'm not counting on it. The dreamscape animations are pretty unique, and you'd need new animations for them to be able to play those songs in the live venues. Not impossible, but something I think they will consider a lot more work for not a big payoff.

[whofan]

Epstein's sexuality inspired them to write "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away".
Annnnnd your point is?

It's got nothing to do with the game and is not necessary to be mentioned, even if it did inspire a song.

[username7410]

Epstein's sexuality inspired them to write "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away".

That's speculation.

[nobody1111s]

when we gonna get more news?

[justin19954]

This tuesday i've got a feeling we will get something.

[harveyglobetrot]

It will be interesting to see how information comes out from here on in. I wonder if we will find out more info through press info, or will HMX stage a big set piece event where they reveal, say, the entire setlist (I'd assume that's the information most people want to hear). I could see them maybe dribbling out info about the setlist or game features through the pre-order club, but I imagine any information of that nature will probably come out through a press release (even if it it does come out first to the pre-order club, it will be on these boards within seconds).

[Minimaul]

I'm going to assume that they'll be pretty tight lipped about things till nearer the release day. I'm sure stuff will get leaked before hand, as usually happens, but nothing concrete till D-Day. I haven't been around for previous RB release so I'm not too sure on how HMX handles things, but I'd assume they don't want too much getting out early on as it can turn people off if it's not exactly what the people expect. Which it usually isn't and people have some crazy expectations of things...

In the interest of building hype for the game I'm sure some tidbits will come now-and-then. In fact, I hope they do. I'd rather have little bits of new information here and there, than having it happen all at once late or early in the release window. It gives me something to look forward too. Even if they did a Clip of the Week, or even a Screen Shot of the Week or something like that, I think it would be cool. Something is better than nothing, in my opinion.

I'd be stoked to get a clip or screen shot on, say Wednesdays where they reveal a new song, or even dreamscape or something else. Just less than 12 weeks away and it wouldn't reveal all the songs or things but a few here and there. Give us something new to talk about for a few days too. haha.

[Blackford]

I'd love to say that I'm trying to avoid any TB:RB news until 9/9/9 so that I can be pleasantly surprised come release date.

Instead I'm constantly checking forums and news sites to learn every little minute detail of this game. The last time this happened was 1998 with Zelda: Ocarina of Time. I'm a sad, sad man.

That said, HMX please give us 5 more songs to hold me over until July!

[whofan]

I'm going to assume that they'll be pretty tight lipped about things till nearer the release day. I'm sure stuff will get leaked before hand, as usually happens, but nothing concrete till D-Day. I haven't been around for previous RB release so I'm not too sure on how HMX handles things, but I'd assume they don't want too much getting out early on as it can turn people off if it's not exactly what the people expect. Which it usually isn't and people have some crazy expectations of things...

In the interest of building hype for the game I'm sure some tidbits will come now-and-then. In fact, I hope they do. I'd rather have little bits of new information here and there, than having it happen all at once late or early in the release window. It gives me something to look forward too. Even if they did a Clip of the Week, or even a Screen Shot of the Week or something like that, I think it would be cool. Something is better than nothing, in my opinion.

I'd be stoked to get a clip or screen shot on, say Wednesdays where they reveal a new song, or even dreamscape or something else. Just less than 12 weeks away and it wouldn't reveal all the songs or things but a few here and there. Give us something new to talk about for a few days too. haha.
At 12 weeks away, they could reveal 3 songs a week to start getting us hyped.

[Minimaul]

At 12 weeks away, they could reveal 3 songs a week to start getting us hyped.

True. But I would like some surprises when I get the full game. Not that I'm a spoiler freak - at least for games like this - but it'd be nice to have some moments of "OH COOL! THIS SONG IS IN THE GAME".

[whofan]

True. But I would like some surprises when I get the full game. Not that I'm a spoiler freak - at least for games like this - but it'd be nice to have some moments of "OH COOL! THIS SONG IS IN THE GAME".
See, I'm the exact opposite. I want to know a full-setlist beforehand (Features can stay secret for all I care) so that I can practice up (I voxtar).

[Cataclysmo]

See, I'm the exact opposite. I want to know a full-setlist beforehand (Features can stay secret for all I care) so that I can practice up (I voxtar).

I second this statement.

See, us vocalists have to actually know the song! :p

And trust me, I've been prepping. My last.fm is all Beatles. Racked up 900 listens in a month. Jeez.

Eleanor Rigby better be on there. Same thing with Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da.

[Minimaul]

yeah, i know what you mean. I guess since it's all the Beatles seeing the whole set list doesn't really bother me cause there's such a huge list of songs I like I'm bound to be pleased with what I get and know most, if not all of it. I'm sure we'll find out sooner or later though.

[Followell4]

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/18/the-beatles-rock-band-will-make-you-cry-hold-a-strangers-hand/

I don't know how to take this article. I'm excited for the game but don't see myself breaking down in tears.

[Cataclysmo]

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/18/the-beatles-rock-band-will-make-you-cry-hold-a-strangers-hand/

I don't know how to take this article. I'm excited for the game but don't see myself breaking down in tears.

I was expecting him to say the last song was 'Hey Jude', and a Beatles montage would play in the background.

That would be pretty tear-producing.

[whofan]

yeah, i know what you mean. I guess since it's all the Beatles seeing the whole set list doesn't really bother me cause there's such a huge list of songs I like I'm bound to be pleased with what I get and know most, if not all of it. I'm sure we'll find out sooner or later though.
Oh, make no mistake, I'm practicing everything I can, but still I'd like to know where to focus, rather than working on songs that won't make the disc cut.

[Sayburr]

I'm excited for the game but don't see myself breaking down in tears.I broke down in tears when I learned the songs would not transfer... :rolleyes:

[Followell4]

I broke down in tears when I learned the songs would not transfer... :rolleyes:

lol, in all seriousness, I do think we'll get a few chill up the spine moments playing along with this one.

[whofan]

I broke down in tears when I learned the songs would not transfer... :rolleyes:
/rimshot

/audience boos

[Sayburr]

/rimshot

/audience boosIts so hard to keep 'em laughing

[AMac2002]

Eleanor Rigby better be on there. Same thing with Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da.

I feel pretty confident that neither of those will be on the disc...

[mva5580]

I broke down in tears when I learned the songs would not transfer... :rolleyes:

You keep bringing it up, talking about how the game is only a rental for you, etc.

I'll bet my posting privilege here that you buy it. Not that it means much to me, as after this game is released I'll leave the board anyway lol. I registered because of the game and I'll leave after it's released.

[Cataclysmo]

I feel pretty confident that neither of those will be on the disc...

brb suicide

[justin19954]

I think Eleanor Rigny might be on there.

[whofan]

I think Eleanor Rigny might be on there.
I think Ob-la has a better chance. Remember, generally speaking Disc songs need to supply all parts equally. It's when you get into the DLC that you can start excluding stuff.

[Cataclysmo]

I think Ob-la has a better chance. Remember, generally speaking Disc songs need to supply all parts equally. It's when you get into the DLC that you can start excluding stuff.

It's about time they start excluding instruments other than vocals. It would make sense, especially since now we can have 3 vocalists at once.

Also, Birthday should be on there.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

I think Ob-la has a better chance. Remember, generally speaking Disc songs need to supply all parts equally. It's when you get into the DLC that you can start excluding stuff.

Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da has vox, bass, drums, and acoustic guitar. It works. Wouldn't be too fun on anything but vox though.

[travmeatwad]

I don't know if it's just me, but I've never seen this screen shot before. I just found it on Harmonix's website. http://www.harmonixmusic.com/index

http://www.harmonixmusic.com/inc/img/gamescreens/beatlesrockband.jpg

[jay4428]

Hadnt seen this posted yet. Interesting read about the games development.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=24069

[Rod_Stixx]

I think I might cry when we first crank the game up on 09-09-09.

I'm dying to know the rest of the setlist.

[justin19954]

I don't know if it's just me, but I've never seen this screen shot before. I just found it on Harmonix's website. http://www.harmonixmusic.com

http://www.harmonixmusic.com/inc/img/gamescreens/beatlesrockband.jpg

How did you get there on the website?

[travmeatwad]

How did you get there on the website?

Click Games and then The Beatles Rock Band.


EDIT: Oh, whoops. Fixed the link.

[justin19954]

Lol makes sense now.

[travmeatwad]

I'm also liking this screen shot.

http://www.harmonixmusic.com/inc/img/5.jpg

It was one of the backgrounds on the page.

[justin19954]

Exact instruments of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Ft9zJWNIg

[miche.cs]

I don't know if it's just me, but I've never seen this screen shot before. I just found it on Harmonix's website. http://www.harmonixmusic.com/index

http://www.harmonixmusic.com/inc/img/gamescreens/beatlesrockband.jpg

Ah I just saw that today and was thinking about changing my Avatar but you beat me to it:)

[MidniteVulture83]

This is my top 10 for the game, if you guys care to know. And I'm pleased that many songs I included made the final set-list. I actually have a 45-song playlist on my iPod with all the songs I'm hoping to see in the game! Anyway, here:

1. "A Day in the Life"
2. "Strawberry Fields Forever"
3. "Come Together"
4. "I Want to Hold Your Hand"
5. "Back in the U.S.S.R."
6. "I Saw Her Standing There"
7. "Helter Skelter"
8. "Octopus's Garden"
9. "Here Comes the Sun"
10. "Rain"

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

This is my top 10 for the game, if you guys care to know. And I'm pleased that many songs I included made the final set-list. I actually have a 45-song playlist on my iPod with all the songs I'm hoping to see in the game! Anyway, here:

1. "A Day in the Life"
2. "Strawberry Fields Forever"
3. "Come Together"
4. "I Want to Hold Your Hand"
5. "Back in the U.S.S.R."
6. "I Saw Her Standing There"
7. "Helter Skelter"
8. "Octopus's Garden"
9. "Here Comes the Sun"
10. "Rain"
Come Together is confirmed DLC!

[MidniteVulture83]

Oh yeah.

You can imagine how thrilled I was to hear that Abbey Road would be released as DLC. I was hoping to play the Abbey Road Medley! I love that song-cycle like you wouldn't believe.

[Kingfish]

I do hope you will forgive me for ONLY reading the first page...there is 222 total now...when I ask this.

I am rewatching the Anthology(thanks Netflix) and I am struck by the number of non-Beatles tunes they played out. Songs like "Kansas City" and others by Chuck Berry and many others.

Has ANYONE said anything about these songs becoming available via DLC?

[travmeatwad]

I do hope you will forgive me for ONLY reading the first page...there is 222 total now...when I ask this.

I am rewatching the Anthology(thanks Netflix) and I am struck by the number of non-Beatles tunes they played out. Songs like "Kansas City" and others by Chuck Berry and many others.

Has ANYONE said anything about these songs becoming available via DLC?

Nothing yet, but I'm hoping for some "Twist and Shout" and "Kansas City/Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey!"

[jay4428]

I do hope you will forgive me for ONLY reading the first page...there is 222 total now...when I ask this.

I am rewatching the Anthology(thanks Netflix) and I am struck by the number of non-Beatles tunes they played out. Songs like "Kansas City" and others by Chuck Berry and many others.

Has ANYONE said anything about these songs becoming available via DLC?

In the opening cinematic, the bottom menu item at The Grape looks like it says Hippie Hippie Shake, which is a song they used to cover. Not sure if that's an indication of anything though.

[whofan]

In the opening cinematic, the bottom menu item at The Grape looks like it says Hippie Hippie Shake, which is a song they used to cover. Not sure if that's an indication of anything though.
Did they ever record that one though? I don't think they did.

Anyways, the opening cinematic features the last couple of chords of Twist & Shout, so we may be getting that one.

I hope they do licence all the covers. I want to see a complete Beatles discography on this thing eventually.

[jay4428]

Did they ever record that one though? I don't think they did.

Anyways, the opening cinematic features the last couple of chords of Twist & Shout, so we may be getting that one.

I hope they do licence all the covers. I want to see a complete Beatles discography on this thing eventually.

I believe its on the "Live at the BBC" album, but that makes one wonder if it would even be usable.

[whofan]

I believe its on the "Live at the BBC" album, but that makes one wonder if it would even be usable.
Yes! You are right. I thought I had heard it before, but I couldn't place my finger on it.

I would say that more than likely the BBC tracks won't be released on disc (if at all), but could come somewhere down the line as DLC.

However, I have no idea how the BBC stuff was recorded, where rights to those recordings lie nor if the original masters still exist (it's interesting to note that the "Live At The BBC" disc isn't being re-released with the rest of the albums this september)

[jay4428]

Yes! You are right. I thought I had heard it before, but I couldn't place my finger on it.

I would say that more than likely the BBC tracks won't be released on disc (if at all), but could come somewhere down the line as DLC.

However, I have no idea how the BBC stuff was recorded, where rights to those recordings lie nor if the original masters still exist (it's interesting to note that the "Live At The BBC" disc isn't being re-released with the rest of the albums this september)

If my memory serves me correctly, I believe that the BBC official tapes were lost and that whole album was based on a bootleg recording, which tells me that the chances of those tracks being usable would be slim.

[whofan]

If my memory serves me correctly, I believe that the BBC official tapes were lost and that whole album was based on a bootleg recording, which tells me that the chances of those tracks being usable would be slim.
That wouldn't surprise me at all. BBC, while having a good record of keeping their performances, doesn't keep good care of them, so it wouldn't surprise me if the tapes were stolen, accidently destroyed, deteriorated, or lost in some way.

A shame really, there are some great performances there.

[GloiGloi]

I wonder if this is true
http://prigg.thisislondon.co.uk/2009/06/my-moment-as-a-beatle.html
"It's a huge amount of fun to play, and Harmonix promises that eventually, every album with be made available to play along to, although only 44 songs will be available at launch. "

[whofan]

I wonder if this is true
http://prigg.thisislondon.co.uk/2009/06/my-moment-as-a-beatle.html
"It's a huge amount of fun to play, and Harmonix promises that eventually, every album with be made available to play along to, although only 44 songs will be available at launch. "
It wouldn't surprise me. Assuming that The Beatles get an album a month, it would only take us 14 Months to get every album (assuming of course that The Beatles and Past Masters are not broken into 2 releases)

[Sayburr]

I wonder if this is true
http://prigg.thisislondon.co.uk/2009/06/my-moment-as-a-beatle.html
"It's a huge amount of fun to play, and Harmonix promises that eventually, every album with be made available to play along to, although only 44 songs will be available at launch. " ... ummm, "with" instead of "Will" and "44 songs" instead of "45 songs". I think this is possible, but is it probable? I would like a second source for this before adding it to the OP simply because of the two minor mistakes...

However, we already have the rumor that 300 songs have been licensed so it might be true that he heard it at E3... but that would have been big news that every media outlet would have carried if HMX, MTV, or The Beatles said such a thing...

[Moony_Lupin]

I'm ready for an update on the game. I think they need to start releasing some more tracks or venues or info on the bonus features. I'm sure many of you agree with me. Here's hoping for something this Tuesday.

[justin19954]

Yes 5 new tracks please.

[Chewie7213]

There's so many pages of stuff to read through, but I'm curious as to what people think will happen for the gameplay for DLC. Do you think the DLC for Abbey Road will have a generic dreamscape during those songs or is it possible DLC will come with unique dreamscapes? I doubt this has been detailed by HMX, but if anyone knows, please fill me in.

Also, do you think a straight play through of Abbey Road is going to be hindered by loading times in between songs? I'm specifically thinking about the latter half of the album here, like "Mean Mr. Mustard" to "Polythene Pam" to "She Came In..." I haven't heard this addressed either, but again, please correct me if it has.

[RMThompson]

I'm ready for an update on the game. I think they need to start releasing some more tracks or venues or info on the bonus features. I'm sure many of you agree with me. Here's hoping for something this Tuesday.

I agree.

Of course when I started a thread about how weak the PreOrder club has been people called me a baby! LOL

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

There's so many pages of stuff to read through, but I'm curious as to what people think will happen for the gameplay for DLC. Do you think the DLC for Abbey Road will have a generic dreamscape during those songs or is it possible DLC will come with unique dreamscapes? I doubt this has been detailed by HMX, but if anyone knows, please fill me in.

Also, do you think a straight play through of Abbey Road is going to be hindered by loading times in between songs? I'm specifically thinking about the latter half of the album here, like "Mean Mr. Mustard" to "Polythene Pam" to "She Came In..." I haven't heard this addressed either, but again, please correct me if it has.
no none of those have been addressed. damn bureaucrats lol. Nah, I think the medley will be split up by song like the tracklisting says for the CD/LP. I also think all DLC songs will have their own dreamscape since it seems that DLC for The Beatles RB won't be regular. They might as well put lots of effort into the content if it is limited.

[Explosion2]

I'm actually (wishfully) thinking that Harmonix is smart (Harmonix, smart? that's crazy talk!), and has somehow devised a way that when you select songs from the medley in order as a setlist, it "medley-izes" them, allowing you to play them through as if they were one song, but you could still play the songs individually if you want, by not picking them as a setlist.

Very wishful thinking, but... yeah...:o

[justin19954]

Full I am the Walrus gameplay! 3 minutes in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I2grdjuPTE&feature=related

[Chewie7213]

Nah, I think the medley will be split up by song like the tracklisting says for the CD/LP. I also think all DLC songs will have their own dreamscape since it seems that DLC for The Beatles RB won't be regular. They might as well put lots of effort into the content if it is limited.

Yeah I figure it will be split up by song, but the guy below me I think is thinking the way I am. And I hope you're right about DLC. If they had something special for each of the songs, that would make every DLC release a pretty big party.


I'm actually (wishfully) thinking that Harmonix is smart (Harmonix, smart? that's crazy talk!), and has somehow devised a way that when you select songs from the medley in order as a setlist, it "medley-izes" them, allowing you to play them through as if they were one song, but you could still play the songs individually if you want, by not picking them as a setlist.

Very wishful thinking, but... yeah...:o

I hope it's not just wishful thinking. I hope HMX realizes how important this part of it is though. It wouldn't be very fun to play the 1:05 long "Mean Mr. Mustard", stop, play "Polythene Pam", stop and etc. I hope its technically possible for them to do this, otherwise it'll probably be one of those little things that bothers me about an otherwise, probably, perfect game. (similar to the way that "Hallowed Be Thy Name" being a live track bothers me just a little bit, but not enough to not play it)

[username7410]

Full I am the Walrus gameplay! 3 minutes in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I2grdjuPTE&feature=related

Awesome, had to shut it off when some idiot in the audience started asking "who wrote these lyrics" ...doh.

[justin19954]

Yeah, that was annoying, but it's good to see they charted the orchastra. That opens up a lot of songs.

[mva5580]

I'm wondering what that guy was even doing in the room, at the end he says "he wasn't lying about that song.....that was ridiculous."

Maybe he's used to listening to Miley Cyrus and her lyrics that appeal to 3rd graders?

[justin19954]

Well it is very different from the stuff of today, especially that song.

[harveyglobetrot]

Full I am the Walrus gameplay! 3 minutes in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I2grdjuPTE&feature=related

Did I hear HMXSean confirm in that video that there will only be the 5 live venues (Cavern Club, Shea Stadium, Ed Sullivan Theatre, Budokan and the Apple rooftop)? And although he didn't explicitly say there will be a dreamscape for every Abbey Road studio song, it would seem that from the way he was talking that that will be the case.

Cool to see that they have charted the weird vocals at the end of I Am The Walrus. And it seems like it was a good call to chart the strings to guitar rather than the actual guitar part. I can imagine the real guitar part would be a snooze-fest. The orchestral part looks like it will be fun.

[bootz0rs]

This means Eleanor Rigby is definantly possible

[justin19954]

Yay! Eleanor Rigby is possible now! I laugh at all who doubted me!

[harveyglobetrot]

Yay! Eleanor Rigby is possible now! I laugh at all who doubted me!

I still think the lack of drums (and bass, unless they chart the strings to that as well) will hurt its chances of inclusion on-disc. If we don't see it on-disc guaranteed it will come as DLC.

[justin19954]

:( Oh forgot about that part.

[Ramirez16]

Full I am the Walrus gameplay! 3 minutes in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I2grdjuPTE&feature=relatedyes thank you ive been looking for this since i lost watched it

[AndywinXp]

In the trailer the guitar chart of I am the walrus was different, it was a real guitar

[Moony_Lupin]

Did I hear HMXSean confirm in that video that there will only be the 5 live venues (Cavern Club, Shea Stadium, Ed Sullivan Theatre, Budokan and the Apple rooftop)?

The Beatles Rock Band site indicates that there will be more by adding "and more..." after the venues listed above. I'm expecting more anyway, like Candlestick Park maybe some of the English Theatres they played at or perhaps the garden where they filmed the Rain promo. We'll see.

[justin19954]

The Beatles Rock Band site indicates that there will be more by adding "and more..." after the venues listed above. I'm expecting more anyway, like Candlestick Park maybe some of the English Theatres they played at or perhaps the garden where they filmed the Rain promo. We'll see.

I think thats for the dreamscapes. Plus thats all the venues we need.

[KISSfan84]

I think with additional DLC, depending on the songs, some will fit into existing venues to fill out the actual setlist played there. If what most of us hope with Dreamscapes comes to fruition (each song that requires it having it's own), it could mean a longer waiting time for DLC. If that's the case, I'd be all for it...new scenes=new game experience=WIN!
Now, having said that, I think that adding a few more venues would also be a possible/great thing. Why not add London Palladium, The Hollywood Bowl, Candlestick Park in San Fran, Olympia Stadium in Detroit, or Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto?
:cool:

[justin19954]

Taxman gameplay! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7iDXOgoW0Y&feature=related 4 minutes in.

[MidniteVulture83]

The song ends differently ... It's still a good ending, but I would have tried to draw that song to a close with the second McCartney solo, that is, with the last chord. It would have been hot.

[whofan]

I think with additional DLC, depending on the songs, some will fit into existing venues to fill out the actual setlist played there. If what most of us hope with Dreamscapes comes to fruition (each song that requires it having it's own), it could mean a longer waiting time for DLC. If that's the case, I'd be all for it...new scenes=new game experience=WIN!
Now, having said that, I think that adding a few more venues would also be a possible/great thing. Why not add London Palladium, The Hollywood Bowl, Candlestick Park in San Fran, Olympia Stadium in Detroit, or Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto?
:cool:
I suspect we will see something like this happen:

Month 1:
Week 1: RB DLC
Week 2: RB DLC
Week 3: RB DLC & TB Pack/Album
Week 4: RB DLC

That's what I think will happen.

Now, for venues/dreamscapes. I think you're right in that the Live years will be put into an appropriate venue, but studio years stuff will HAVE to have their own dreamscapes due to the nature of the dreamscapes.

However, I do not see them adding in new venues with songs, as I could see problems arising in that you would HAVE to include venue information with every DLC that came out for that venue. That is to say, let's say that "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" and "The Night Before" came out and both were programed for Hollywood Bowl (This is just an example, I don't think either of those songs were played Live at the bowl). "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" comes out first and has the venue information attached. "The Night Before" comes out after and is programmed to work with that venue. What do you do if you don't have "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away"? You're hosed unless you include the venue information with every DLC track that uses that venue, in which case you are wasting (precious) Hard drive space for a lot of people.

I'm not saying I don't want to see it (I desperately want to see it), but I can really see the problems that may arise out of it.

[Iceman420]

Is anyone talking about the features of this game somewhere? I know there is lots of talk of the songs and stuff like that.

I was just wondering if anyone was aware of how they will have the 3 singers? Is there three mic hookups? how does that work. Right now I have that blockhead thing to split to 2 mics. But I assume for this game they will all be one their own channel, and my set up will need to be changed. I assume I will need to buy some new stuff or something.

[RMThompson]

I suspect we will see something like this happen:

Month 1:
Week 1: RB DLC
Week 2: RB DLC
Week 3: RB DLC & TB Pack/Album
Week 4: RB DLC

That's what I think will happen.

Now, for venues/dreamscapes. I think you're right in that the Live years will be put into an appropriate venue, but studio years stuff will HAVE to have their own dreamscapes due to the nature of the dreamscapes.

However, I do not see them adding in new venues with songs, as I could see problems arising in that you would HAVE to include venue information with every DLC that came out for that venue. That is to say, let's say that "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" and "The Night Before" came out and both were programed for Hollywood Bowl (This is just an example, I don't think either of those songs were played Live at the bowl). "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" comes out first and has the venue information attached. "The Night Before" comes out after and is programmed to work with that venue. What do you do if you don't have "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away"? You're hosed unless you include the venue information with every DLC track that uses that venue, in which case you are wasting (precious) Hard drive space for a lot of people.

I'm not saying I don't want to see it (I desperately want to see it), but I can really see the problems that may arise out of it.

I don't know about that schedule. I know they will trickle it out, but I think it will be coming pretty fast for the first few months to capitalize on the folks who are in love with the game as soon as they buy it.

As for the dreamscapes/venues, I agree that they will probably not include a new one for each song, and if they did...expect them to be MORE than 160 MS points.

[RMThompson]

Is anyone talking about the features of this game somewhere? I know there is lots of talk of the songs and stuff like that.

I was just wondering if anyone was aware of how they will have the 3 singers? Is there three mic hookups? how does that work. Right now I have that blockhead thing to split to 2 mics. But I assume for this game they will all be one their own channel, and my set up will need to be changed. I assume I will need to buy some new stuff or something.

Just plug another mic into the hub... all three mics will be controlled by one controller.

[whofan]

I don't know about that schedule. I know they will trickle it out, but I think it will be coming pretty fast for the first few months to capitalize on the folks who are in love with the game as soon as they buy it.

As for the dreamscapes/venues, I agree that they will probably not include a new one for each song, and if they did...expect them to be MORE than 160 MS points.
I expect ALL Beatles DLC to be priced at $2.99, whatever the MSP equivalent of that is. I would be very pleasently surprised if it turns out at 160 MSP