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jrogers
11-22-2007, 07:55 PM
To think about. We all got shafted with this non-compatibility issue with the LP. Has anyone taken into consideration that even though Harmonix made RB it's under EA and EA just got a new head honcho (Peter Moore) who was a former head honcho with.........Microsoft and Xbox 360. Non-compatibility = planned attack against Sony which is totally bull. There is no logical reason for that LP to work on the 360 and not on PS3. Also if the LP is working on the 360 then there should be no problem for Harmonix/ EA to make it work on the PS3. If we (PS3) users can't use the LP on RB then in fairness...If Harmonix and EA are not trying to shaft PS3 owners....Patch the darn 360 version to not accept the LP as a guitar. They can do that can't they? if you are gonna force PS3 owners to buy another guitar then 360 owners should too...Oh but that former MS head honcho wouldn't approve that now would he...Considering that he still has very close friends @ MS....In fact why has every game that has come out under the EA name been really inferior to the same 360 games? Harmonix and Peter Moore.......We are on to your game...And someone needs to investigate this.

Gamemakerman
11-22-2007, 08:01 PM
Peter Moore is executive of EA Sports, they have nothing to do with the games that the rest of EA puts out. Peter Moore himself wants every platform to do well and the thing with the LP not working on the PS3 is Red Octane and EA/Harmonix's fault, as they had no standard for making the controllers on.

On the Xbox 360 side however, EA/Harmonix is kinda lying to us, about why the Stratocaster wont work with Guitar Hero.

jrogers
11-22-2007, 08:05 PM
Thanx 4 the correction. Sorry 4 my ignorance, but it's kinda irritating me to no end 'cause i and other PS3 owners have 3 buddies waiting to play with a GH3 controller that won't work for us but will work for 360 users.

NotorietyH
11-22-2007, 08:10 PM
Personally I think it was either bigfoot or the loch ness monster that had something to do with it. Maybe microsoft promised them a unicorn each to do it though.

Gamemakerman
11-22-2007, 08:12 PM
Thanx 4 the correction. Sorry 4 my ignorance, but it's kinda irritating me to no end 'cause i and other PS3 owners have 3 buddies waiting to play with a GH3 controller that won't work for us but will work for 360 users.

That is a problem between Red Octane, EA/Harmonix and to some degree Sony. On the Playstation 3 there have not been made any standard for Guitar controllers, so Red Octane invented their own way (Based over SixAxis as far as i understand) and EA/Harmonix also made their own.

In the end its a question of drivers for the controller, where the Xbox 360 uses the same standard for its Guitar controllers (explains why the GH3 guitar works, when the GH2 one has allways been supported) and why the Xbox 360 strocaster wont work on Guitar Hero, for Xbox 360.

Its now up to Red Octane to send the drivers to Harmonix, or Harmonix makes their own drivers for it. On the Xbox 360 its up to Harmonix to make drivers for Red Octane, or Red Octane will have to make their own.

I dont see any solution to this problem anytime soon, as Harmonix just blames Red Octane by stating that they made the Stratocaster over an open code, that really wasnt there yet on the PS3.

jordan15b
11-22-2007, 08:28 PM
oh teh noes bill gates wants to destroys teh ps3 and the wii

then he will create the pswii60

Ventura
11-22-2007, 08:42 PM
In fact why has every game that has come out under the EA name been really inferior to the same 360 games?

Apparently that's got something to do with the PS3 being a lot more difficult to develop for than the 360. Sad, but true. And that's coming from a guy who apparently used to work for Harmonix:

http://jbooth.blogspot.com/2007/10/ps3-misconceptions-and-spin.html

The fact that the GH3 controller for the 360 works, but the one for the PS3 doesn't, seems to suggest a lack of choice or capability rather than some sort of EA/Microsoft conspiracy.

Either way, it's fair to say it's something they need to fix pretty quick smart.

PinkFloyd
11-22-2007, 11:07 PM
Apparently that's got something to do with the PS3 being a lot more difficult to develop for than the 360. Sad, but true. And that's coming from a guy who apparently used to work for Harmonix:

http://jbooth.blogspot.com/2007/10/ps3-misconceptions-and-spin.html

The fact that the GH3 controller for the 360 works, but the one for the PS3 doesn't, seems to suggest a lack of choice or capability rather than some sort of EA/Microsoft conspiracy.

Either way, it's fair to say it's something they need to fix pretty quick smart.

I stopped reading that article when he got to the BluRay bit. The DVD in 360 is, on average, just as fast as the BluRay. The higher speeds are only attained in the outer section of the DVD, the closer you get to the center, the slower the data reads. In the utmost inner-area of the DVD, the data reads significantly slower than the BluRay. BluRay discs are read at a constant speed, eg. the speed of data-transfer is equal whether you read from the outer section or inner section.

OT:

I think the reason behind the Les Paul not working on PS3 lies in the open architecture that Sony promotes. Everyone can make a controller for PS3, in the case of Guitar Hero 3, you put in a special RF-dongle that receives the wireless signal from the guitar-controller and transfers it to the PS3-machine. As long as Harmonix does not understand what signal is put to the PS3 (which can be any signal, as it's being handled by the Guitar Hero 3-software), they can not add support for the PS3-Les Paul. Think of it as attaching a device to your PC without having the proper drivers installed.
Now, opposed to Sony's open approach, Microsoft uses a forced standard (which developers must pay for to be able to use it). So the signal is always the same, regardless of the game. This makes it far more easy to adapt a non-Rock Band controller.

Now I know that behind your screen you're already shouting "but GH3 doesn't support RB-guitars", so I'm going to add this: Rock Band supports an open approach to guitar-support. So any guitar can be used. However, Guitar Hero 3 does not support this (which is also clearly stated on their site). There are ways of identifying a guitar as a GH-controller. In other words, the Rock Band guitar is being prevented from usage in the GH3-software, not the 360-hardware.

sleepbox
11-22-2007, 11:22 PM
ROFL...so Peter Moore is a MS mole @ EA? Kinda makes sense if you think about it...I mean, the dude DID get various video game tattoos while representing the Xbox brand....maybe that means 4 LIFE?