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In this order:

Green River
Willy and the Poor Boys
Bayou Country
Cosmo's Factory
s/t
Pendelum
Mardi Gras

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i'd put Mardi Gras ahead of Pendelum, and glad to see Cosmo's Factory isn't getting buttraped in here

I just came upon the realization that I don't know any new straight-up black metal bands, just symphonic stuff (which I dislike a bit). Could someone recommend me some? It seems like a rarity...

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I just came upon the realization that I don't know any new straight-up black metal bands, just symphonic stuff (which I dislike a bit). Could someone recommend me some? It seems like a rarity...

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your mileage may vary in terms of "new" and "straight-up", but i think these are all deserving of your attention...

ondskapt
prevalent resistance
deathcult
old wainds
elite
tuman
orcustus

can I get pointed in the right direction with Powerviolence bands such as Ceremony?

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can I get pointed in the right direction with Powerviolence bands such as Ceremony?

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more recent bands doing somewhat similar things...
the endless brigade, weekend nachos, chaisaw to the face, trash talk, california love, uzi suicide, lewd acts, hatred surge, rainbow of death, and iron lung.

older powerviolence bands...
crossed out, a**sholeparade, gasp, charles bronson, dropdead, infest, combatwoundedveteran, mk-ultra, capitalist casualties, and lack of interest.

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your mileage may vary in terms of "new" and "straight-up", but i think these are all deserving of your attention...

ondskapt
prevalent resistance
deathcult
old wainds
elite
tuman
orcustus

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Thank you thank you thank you. God damn it, you know stuff about everything. It's quite unfair haha.

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Thank you thank you thank you. God damn it, you know stuff about everything. It's quite unfair haha.

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i'm sure there's some even better stuff out there, but i'm so focused on nontraditional black metal that it's hard to keep up with it all.

Outside of a few acts from the 90s, I've pretty much stopped listening to "traditional black metal". It's the new wave that interests me the most.

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Outside of a few acts from the 90s, I've pretty much stopped listening to "traditional black metal". It's the new wave that interests me the most.

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By the new wave, do you mean more orchestrated stuff?

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By the new wave, do you mean more orchestrated stuff?

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Well they're new, but not what I mean by new-wave. What I mean by new-wave the underground Black Metal scene that started up in the new millenium with a more of a focus on experimenting.

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Well they're new, but not what I mean by new-wave. What I mean by new-wave the underground Black Metal scene that started up in the new millenium with a more of a focus on experimenting.

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I'm just trying to get an idea of where the black metal scene is at. From the looks of it, gothic black metal is the most popular type. However, now I'm guessing that you're talking about stuff like Furze or Wolves in the Throne Room.

I just want to know more black metal. I know the least about it of all the subgenres, but I've been listening to the stuff I do know a lot lately and I'm really starting to take more of a liking towards it. I even just recorded a little diddy and put it on YouTube.

So, yeah, I'll take anything. I like traditional stuff the best (like that thing I recorded), but I just want to know more in general.

To be perfectly honest, I don't really follow scenes too much. I guess I'm going by my own definitions here, as I don't frequent the Archives anymore. Furze and Wolves in the Throne Room are great underground bands. If you want to look for some more bizarre stuff, check out the much acclaimed Ameseours, Alcest, and Cobalt.

Amesoeurs kicks ass. Their debut is one of my favorite albums of the year. Too bad they split up. I'll check out the others, though, thanks.

yeah, black metal's definitely expanded more in the past 5 years than i think many people expected, even after bands like weakling, draugar, and other bands started pushing into some new territory at the beginning of the decade.

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Amesoeurs kicks ass. Their debut is one of my favorite albums of the year. Too bad they split up. I'll check out the others, though, thanks.

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I was truly saddened when I learned that as well. At least there are plenty other bands in that same vein that have recently new releases or forthcoming ones.

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I was truly saddened when I learned that as well. At least there are plenty other bands in that same vein that have recently new releases or forthcoming ones.

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didn't you hear?!
mixing post-punk with black metal is even lamer than mixing in shoegaze or post-rock so the wise tastemakers at metal-archives have blocked the release of said albums! :p

**** metal archives. Black Metal/Shoegaze is 100 fold more "metal" than 90% of what those dorks are listening to.

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**** metal archives. Black Metal/Shoegaze is 100 fold more "metal" than 90% of what those dorks are listening to.

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wanna come over and touch each other while we talk about our favorite guitar riffs?

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wanna come over and touch each other while we talk about our favorite guitar riffs?

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for sure dude, we can also talk about our favorite breakdowns while we're at it. Suicide Silence all the way babay.

Yet another question that might only be answered by afterstasis, but is Lifter Puller worth checking out?

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Yet another question that might only be answered by afterstasis, but is Lifter Puller worth checking out?

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they're not bad... knowing your taste they're certainly worth giving a listen.

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they're not bad... knowing your taste they're certainly worth giving a listen.

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I'll check them out then, thanks.

On a somewhat related note, would you recommend The Hold Steady as well? If so, what would be a good starting point?

I got $30 worth of iTunes credit. What should I use it on?

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I got $30 worth of iTunes credit. What should I use it on?

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I would just save it until you find you want something, rather than think "spend spend spend!" right now.

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I would just save it until you find you want something, rather than think "spend spend spend!" right now.

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Just trying to get ideas flowing.

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Just trying to get ideas flowing.

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Without an in-depth knowledge of your taste in music and what you own, I can only recommend buying something that you want but can't get any other way.

For a random recommendation, the remasters of The Jesus Lizard albums are pretty sweet. Liar and Goat in particular.

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I got $30 worth of iTunes credit. What should I use it on?

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Fates Warning - A Pleasant Shade Of Gray

If you are a Muse fan they have their first 4 albums up on iTunes for $30

need bands similar too soft cell.

Well, I just spent $6 on They Mean Us - Friendship Lottery, which I've been meaning to get for a long time but never could find any torrents for or on SS.

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Well, I just spent $6 on They Mean Us - Friendship Lottery, which I've been meaning to get for a long time but never could find any torrents for or on SS.

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You can always get some live material and it depends what are you looking for (genre wise)

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I got $30 worth of iTunes credit. What should I use it on?

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The Shins

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The Shins

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You say that so often it's lost all meaning...

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The Shins

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i agree.

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You say that so often it's lost all meaning...

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what meaning did it have before?

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i agree.

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agree with ocb or me?

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agree with ocb or me?

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you. the shins are awesome.

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you. the shins are awesome.

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W0000! yes, yes they are :)

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On a somewhat related note, would you recommend The Hold Steady as well? If so, what would be a good starting point?

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i don't like them, but i seem to be in the minority.

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i don't like them, but i seem to be in the minority.

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Fair enough.

Edit: Just listened to a few of their songs on YouTube, and it turns out I agree with you. I found them to be incredibly bland. They weren't terrible or anything, but they weren't interesting in the slightest. Also, for whatever reason, I now have an incredible urge to listen to Archers Of Loaf...

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Edit: Just listened to a few of their songs on YouTube, and it turns out I agree with you. I found them to be incredibly bland. They weren't terrible or anything, but they weren't interesting in the slightest. Also, for whatever reason, I now have an incredible urge to listen to Archers Of Loaf...

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i've been on a pretty big eric bachman trip lately between archers, crooked fingers, and his solo stuff.

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i've been on a pretty big eric bachman trip lately between archers, crooked fingers, and his solo stuff.

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I've been playing Icky Mettle almost daily in the last two weeks. I've actually been meaning to look more into Crooked Fingers. I have one album (Red Devil Dawn), but that's it.