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Originally Posted by Elegy

How?

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Eminem was good in his early days for a quick fun listen, but was never a good serious musician. Fort Minor was always horrible to me (okay, that's a lie but still).

ergo; I developed standards.

Talib Kweli and Nas are much better mainstream rappers.

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Originally Posted by Gowienczyk

Eminem was good in his early days for a quick fun listen, but was never a good serious musician. Fort Minor was always horrible to me (okay, that's a lie but still).

ergo; I developed standards.

Talib Kweli and Nas are much better mainstream rappers.

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Kanye West was good for a mainstream rapper, but now the whole auto tuner is a total turnoff. I liked it better when he rapped about family and his struggles.

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Originally Posted by Gowienczyk

Eminem was good in his early days for a quick fun listen, but was never a good serious musician. Fort Minor was always horrible to me (okay, that's a lie but still).

ergo; I developed standards.

Talib Kweli and Nas are much better mainstream rappers.

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Okay I sort of understand.

But I think Em's a good serious musician, he just isn't that often.

Cleaning out my closet, When I'm Gone, Lose Yourself.

And Fort Minor, IDK, I got into them because of Where'd You Go, and Cigarettes is a really good parable for the rap industry

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Originally Posted by supernova1324

Kanye West was good for a mainstream rapper, but now the whole auto tuner is a total turnoff. I liked it better when he rapped about family and his struggles.

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I liked Kanye's first three albums, but I haven't heard the new one, other than the lead single which sucked. I think he's a good mainstream Hip Hop artist, mostly.

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Originally Posted by Gowienczyk

I found that kind of annoying!

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I can see why even though I don't agree. Now listen to that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzoIwVy0A4
THAT is annoying. But I still like that song anyway.

(While searching for it, I found this soul version: )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPzohswI5Tc

Emeniem was good but Old School Rap was the best

Arrested Development - Tennessee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g40c6iAEHpc

Public Enemy-Fight The Power

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_t13-0Joyc

Insane In The Brain-Cypress Hill

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwxbsVd15-I

Changes-Tupac (some language)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=741kJDfSw6s

I know one song by an Italian rap group by the name of Articolo 31 called "Come una Pietra Scalciata." It's a reworking of Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone" and does sample that song. Here's a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4zEryTQVSU

@Stewie; Public Enemy is from a completely different era from Tupac and Cypress Hill. They are the politicised rap that was popula in the late 80s/early 90s, the reaction agianst which was the sort of stuff Tupac and Cypress Hill produced, the only logical conclusion of which is the current hip hop scene combined with a reactionary underground who are returning to the politicised sprectrum or continuing the Alternative Hip Hop movement that developed in the shade of the Gangsta rap.

Hip-Hop is still awesome.