RockBand.com

  • 12-03-2009 12:55 AM
    Cliphead
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blasteroids View Post
    Example..
    Person1 : "Dude you do not have x song, go get it. It shows as DLC."
    Person2 : "I looked at the store and its not there!!"
    Person1 : "Oh yeah, I actually got it from a disc. My bad. The icon shows as DLC."

    However, I am not sure how this would work for time-based disc packs that could eventually appear on the store. Suggestions anyone?

    There's always playing Lego and remembering which songs were in it.
    Quote:

    Personally I think Harmonix should have just included the icon image into each song's data file like they they do with the album art, category, difficulty etc. It would only be a few bytes of data and would avoid the need to patch the older Rock Band games in order to display the songs correctly.
    In 2007 they weren't considering exporting games and didn't see the point in embedding an icon that would be exactly the same for every single song they had planned.

    Rock Band 1 songs show up as such because they're in the Rock Band data as save files. The Lego songs are saved as downloadable content, a pack that the game doesn't see any different from, say, the Boston pack or Queen pack or any of those. They could have programmed it to think "If pack == 'Lego Rock Band Export Pack' location == 'LEGO Rock Band'" but that would have required a patch, which would have called for additional testing, probably would have screwed up a seemingly irrelevant detail in the interface, &c. Like I said, more trouble than it's worth.
  • 12-03-2009 03:53 AM
    Bront20
    I'd love a lego designation. Probably requires a patch. I'll let them finish the PS3 RB2 patch before I complain about this though.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ricecake View Post
    I would prefer the L:RB exports to be labeled differently from the rest of the DLC. I think the issue is that the L:RB songs are only available by exporting (this is also why I think the AC/DC pack should be separated as well.

    Isn't sorting by band good enough for this? They even show up in the same album.
  • 12-03-2009 10:24 AM
    ricecake
    @Bront20:
    What you say is true, and it doesn't really bother me too much, but I just consider it a nice-to-have feature.
  • 12-03-2009 10:32 AM
    Jixzer
    Well, while we're at it I want a different Icon for AC/DC, The country track pack, if I bought the song individually or with a pack, the artist's zodiac, and their favorite bubble gum flavor.

    Seriously, it's friggin DLC, regardless of source. GTF over it.
  • 12-03-2009 10:48 AM
    JPSChampagne
    I know nothing about programming something like this, but to me, why not just do something with Rock Band 2 to display them differently and leave the first game seeing them as DLC? All it would take, one would assume is to just make the game see that one download as a different tier of songs.

    As for the DLC / not DLC argument - are you people crazy? Just because you physically downloaded it doesn't mean that makes it DLC. Those songs came on a disc just like the Rock Band 1 songs. They will never be available as downloadable songs. Never. Why sort them with songs that have a completely different method of delivery?

    AC/DC gets off the hook, to me, as those songs are all by one band. You can group all of those tracks together just by sorting by Artist. As it stands now, there is no way to group the Lego tracks with each other and that, to me, is a flaw.

    I'm not gonna quit Rock Band or boycott anything, but this was a disappointment and I hope that a patch can resolve it.
  • 12-03-2009 01:31 PM
    guitarjacked
    The "they are DLC so should be labelled as such because they were downloaded" is pedantry. Who cares what the method of obtaining those songs was? Only those that like to split hairs on technicalities. It would be preferrable if the songs could be labelled as LRB songs. No biggie really is it? If it's not possible or doesn't happen is not going to bother me. I don't understand why anyone is against this suggestion or attack those that would like just because the songs were downloaded. Generally, I believe people will see these songs as LRB songs not DLC.
  • 12-03-2009 01:58 PM
    Ehfahq
    "The "they are DLC so should be labelled as such because they were downloaded" is pedantry."

    No its not. You can say it until you turn blue but it doesnt make it true

    "Who cares what the method of obtaining those songs was?"

    The game does. Thats why its sorted as DLC.

    "I don't understand why anyone is against this suggestion or attack those that would like just because the songs were downloaded."

    Nobody in this thread is against it. And nobody attacked anybody.
  • 12-03-2009 02:01 PM
    T-Hybrid
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BallisticJunkfood View Post
    Where's the "I don't really care much" button?

    That's my vote. This whole "issue" is annoying as heck. Anybody who has the 45 songs on their HDD knows where they came from...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JPSChampagne View Post
    I know nothing about programming something like this, but to me, why not just do something with Rock Band 2 to display them differently and leave the first game seeing them as DLC? All it would take, one would assume is to just make the game see that one download as a different tier of songs.

    The only way for RB2 to read them different is if they have the data in them to be read.

    If there's nothing in the song metadata that says "Hey we are from LEGO", then there's nothing the game can do about it. Short of hardcoding the list of 45 songs....and "hardcoding" is often times a dirty word.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by M3wThr33 View Post
    I would like more categorizing, yeah. I think we all do. The 20 Bonus Pack was the start of it. 20 random songs interspersed into a huge library and many got lost.

    The same could be said for any newly downloaded song.
  • 12-03-2009 04:09 PM
    sirdeck
    Well, the rock band 2 songs are on-disc songs, they have their own icon.
    The rock band 1 songs are on-disc songs, they have their own icon.
    The lego rock band songs are on-disc songs, they should also have their own icon.

    Of course we know why they don't have their own icon, but that's not a logical reason, it's a technical reason. Logically they should be differenciated from the "normal" dlc.

    Lego rock band songs aren't "normal" dlc, unless you are able to download it without a lego rock band export code found in a lego rock band copy ?

    I don't know why you are trying to argue in a technical point of vue, that's hmx's developpers problem, as for any software in the world.

    Anyway, this issue is not really a big deal ;)

    PS : sorry for my poor english, I'm french so I suck in english ;)
  • 12-03-2009 04:10 PM
    Jixzer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sirdeck View Post
    Well, the rock band 2 songs are on-disc songs, they have their own icon.
    The rock band 1 songs are on-disc songs, they have their own icon.
    The lego rock band songs are on-disc songs, they should also have their own icon.

    Of course we know why they don't have their own icon, but that's not a logical reason, it's a technical reason. Logically they should be differenciated from the "normal" dlc.

    Lego rock band songs aren't "normal" dlc, unless you are able to download it without a lego rock band export code found in a lego rock band copy ?

    I don't know why you are trying to argue in a technical point of vue, that's hmx's developpers problem, as for any software in the world.

    Anyway, this issue is not really a big deal ;)

    PS : sorry for my poor english, I'm french so I suck in english ;)

    Honestly, your English is better than most of the native speakers here. :)