Anyone feel too weird alt strum a bunch of notes randomly, but find Knights of Cydonia a perfect song to practice that?

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Originally Posted by ZoiloCruz

Anyone feel too weird alt strum a bunch of notes randomly, but find Knights of Cydonia a perfect song to practice that?

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It's a good song for building up speed and precision with altstrum. Most other occurrences just have a random altstrum spot meant to break your combo.

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Originally Posted by Witticus

It's a good song for building up speed and precision with altstrum. Most other occurrences just have a random altstrum spot meant to break your combo.

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Well because I never got a problem doing it on that song, But when I've try songs like "Foolin' ", "The Killing Moon" (bass) or "East Jesus Nowhere: it's hard to pull off without making so many mistakes :/ Could be that GH WOR;s guitar is just not good for alt strumming a whole mess of notes? :/

Well, looks like "Hysteria" is all we'll ever have in Rock Band.

It was a good try, but in the end, we weren't invincible.

I'm guessing the last song that'll ever be released for Rock Band on April 2nd will be Guiding Light....

Let's just wait and see. I feel a lot of Fury (pun intended) building inside at the moment, but I'll still these feelings until the coffin is nailed.

I would love some Muse.But I would like to verify about licensing and copyrights.

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Originally Posted by RockBandRocker

Well, looks like "Hysteria" is all we'll ever have in Rock Band.

It was a good try, but in the end, we weren't invincible.

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At least we have a song by Muse in game, and a good one at that. It's been almost 5 years since it came out and it's still ridiculously fun to play.

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Originally Posted by Munnchy

At least we have a song by Muse in game, and a good one at that. It's been almost 5 years since it came out and it's still ridiculously fun to play.

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I think there is a chance, whilst a small one... That Butterflies & Hurricanes will be the last ever song. I think it'll be Led Zepp or Beatles (R n R or Hey Jude come to mind).

The last song is going to be something fitting to the end of DLC releases. I hardly doubt B+H would be released, although I admire your optimism :P

The March 26th release (penultimate week) will be a pack as mentioned by HMX a couple of times recently. This is our last stand and if we don't get Muse then at least we'll have an idea of why only 1 song in 2008 was released in the whole 5 and a half years lifespan via the PAX East panel.

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Originally Posted by Munnchy

The last song is going to be something fitting to the end of DLC releases. I hardly doubt B+H would be released, although I admire your optimism :P

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I could easily name 5 Muse songs that could be final songs, hell I'll give you 10.

Sing for Absolution
Time is Running Out
Take a Bow
Shrinking Universe
Stockholm Syndrome
Thoughts of a Dying Atheist
Apocalypse Please
The 2nd Law Unsustainable
Starlight
Space Dementia

When you get down to the nitty gritty of Muse they have a lot of dark, apocalyptic, depressing tones.

I feel like the pack could be a mix of their poppier songs and the fan favorites, so here's my pack:

Uprising O
Stockholm Syndrome OX
Madness O
Supermassive Black Hole
Plug in Baby OX
Knights of Cydonia O

Seems the most likely. I mostly just really want Plug in Baby.

Honestly, Muse seems the most likely pack, since for a while, the four biggest requests were Radiohead, Muse, Rush, and Pantera. Pantera and Rush got a bunch of new stuff, and Radiohead won't happen, since they are very fickle about their songs and mastering. So Muse seems like a good bet.

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Originally Posted by Henry_Sardonicus

Honestly, Muse seems the most likely pack, since for a while, the four biggest requests were Radiohead, Muse, Rush, and Pantera. Pantera and Rush got a bunch of new stuff, and Radiohead won't happen, since they are very fickle about their songs and mastering. So Muse seems like a good bet.

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I'm surprised Pantera was top 4 requested and would have expected A7X to be there instead. Either way, you would be able to use the same logic as for Pantera. I'm thinking it'll be Muse for a different reason, HMX have always joked about Muse DLC in various situations (censoring on the livestream chat, stuff which has happened at PAX panels, etc.). When the DLC ends on April 2nd, they won't be able to do that anymore so the joke would be gone hence they would want to give the fans DLC to properly end this long term joke.

If nothing else, they'll have to address the Muse issue at their PAX East "tell-all" Q&A.

Ok, nope. I refuse to get my hopes up about a band that would have been released by now. Harmonix have known how popular they are in the request forums and on the dashboard. It's been 5 and a half years now, it would/should have happened. While a pack by them would be best possible scenario for me in the second to last week, I'm flat out denying it'll happen, and re-adjusting my hopes for something cool in it's place.

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Originally Posted by BohemianMatt

If nothing else, they'll have to address the Muse issue at their PAX East "tell-all" Q&A.

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^ This is what I want to find out. It can't be masters missing, It can't be exclusivity. So I'd love to know what made it difficult for them to licence new music. I'm putting my money on the label just being difficult and asking for too much money... That, or Harmonix really doesn't like them at all.

Sorry to bring the tone down, but as RBR isn't here, I have to re-align your expectations myself. Don't get your hopes up and enjoy what comes out instead :)

Indeed! They will have to address the Muse issue. Joking about the most reqested band without releasing any songs (not couting Hysteria, as the joking commenced after its release) or telling why is downright cruel and unreasonable and also rather unprofessional

Rather than let this thread Dry up and die off, have a look at this video. Pretty good for a competition entry and perfectly captures the subject matter of the song. Worth a watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tFG_5PBl2K8

Well, dudes, it's over. Muse never made the cut a second time. I guess we'll always have Hysteria.

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Originally Posted by BohemianMatt

Well, dudes, it's over. Muse never made the cut a second time. I guess we'll always have Hysteria.

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I honestly like to take the approach of it's not over until all DLC has stopped completely especially as Muse's first few albums are independent record label material.

It ain't happening anytime soon. I just want to hear about it from HMX now, as to why it didn't happen.

F$%^ing BS article title.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/...4793622b000002

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Originally Posted by PyramidHead128

F$%^ing BS article title.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/...4793622b000002

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Wow, seriously. After all that, HMX just gave us the same exact answer they've been giving us all the last few years. Didn't even elaborate on Muse. Bummer.

Ok that's BS. I can understand if liscencing stopped them from getting them in game, but just feeding us the SAME information we've been given over the last two years isn't cool. I'd like a straight answer as to why they're not here, not a cop out. Fair enough if they can't talk about it for legal reasons or whatever. I'm sure HMX tried their best to get them in game, but I just really want a specific answer as to why they aren't :(

616,738 requests to no avail. All these years of waiting. I used to admire your hard work as I looked through your vast music store, ever waiting for my favourite band. But not anymore. You have failed to deliver and given insufficient answers as to why. I feel led behind the light and I am sick of waiting, so I'm out. Sayonara Rock Band

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Originally Posted by Munnchy

Ok that's BS. I can understand if liscencing stopped them from getting them in game, but just feeding us the SAME information we've been given over the last two years isn't cool. I'd like a straight answer as to why they're not here, not a cop out. Fair enough if they can't talk about it for legal reasons or whatever. I'm sure HMX tried their best to get them in game, but I just really want a specific answer as to why they aren't :(

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Do you think it would help or hurt our chances of getting bands in the game if we were to say "oh, while in negotiations, this band did this" or "this band's label wanted X, Y and Z" or "this band member made this ridiculous request"? Airing that dirty laundry in public can only hurt our relationship with that band / label, and discourage other bands / labels from working with us again in the future. And yes, if we started talking openly about private negotiations or licensing deals, there could be legal consequences. That's why you haven't heard more than you have.

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Originally Posted by Wario_Man

616,738 requests to no avail. All these years of waiting. I used to admire your hard work as I looked through your vast music store, ever waiting for my favourite band. But not anymore. You have failed to deliver and given insufficient answers as to why. I feel led behind the light and I am sick of waiting, so I'm out. Sayonara Rock Band

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FWIW, that number of requests was reported incorrectly. That's the number of ALL submissions on RockBand.com/request. There was also additional context in our panel for how we pursue bands and the most common reasons why bands haven't appeared in Rock Band as of yet. These 4 reasons apply to pretty much every band and if we're able to clear those panel discussions with Legal and Music Ops we'll share that information on the forums as well.

You know, I'm actually kind of glad HMX never managed to release more Muse DLC. That's weird coming from me, I know, but them not releasing more songs to play in the game actually pushed me to go see them in concert more.

Allow me to elaborate: Rock Band lets you interact with the music, which allows you to get a deep connection with the songs you love. To get that same sort of level of connection with Muse's music, I started going to their concerts. In 2010, I saw them 2 times. In 2011, I saw them 4 times and 2 of those times was a trip to England to see them play Origin Of Symmetry all the way through. They didn't tour the U.S. in 2012, but in 2013 I saw them on back-to-back nights.

Over the past couple years I've seen the band in concert 8 times. That's 8 times more than I probably would have if I could just play the songs in Rock Band. As it is, I'm waiting for Fall U.S. tour dates now, so I can see them again and enter the double digits.

So, when all is said and done, HMX not being able to get their songs has been a good thing because it got me interacting with the music via the live experience and at one of those experiences I got to shake Matt Bellamy's hand. I wouldn't have been able to do that at home.


The one thing I will say, slightly critically, is that if the band wanting their own game is what held them back, I feel that HMX should've caved and either re-skined Green Day: Rock Band or made the Muse game instead. But at the end of the day, I still have "Hysteria" to play in Rock Band and the songs to listen to on record/my iPod/computer.

I don't understand that rationality RBR. I saw a ton of bands live because they were in Rock Band or I'm friends with the band. Nothing stopped me from seeing a band simply because they were in a game. The virtual band is not the same as seeing your favorite people live.

Several years later and still waiting for the real reason why Rock Band had no more Muse songs, since it was the most requested band of all time and Guitar Hero had no problems having more songs from them. It just doesn't make sense, seems unfair.

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Originally Posted by Han Daimond

...Guitar Hero had no problems having more songs from them. It just doesn't make sense, seems unfair.

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That's the kicker for me too. I don't get it. There had to be some sort of bad blood or artist backlash against the usage of the songs, perhaps after the GH pack(s).

I really don't understand the thought process here that there has to be some super secret reason why they didn't get anymore songs into the game. Look, I would have loved more Muse songs in Rock Band but is it so hard to believe that it just didn't pan out? It's pretty clear the folks at Harmonix tried their damnedest to get as many artists into this game series as they could and for reasons beyond their control they couldn't get everyone they wanted or everyone that was requested. Despite this they still delivered tons of additional content to us over the course of the series' lifespan and on a weekly basis no less.

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Originally Posted by Lucid_Delusion

I really don't understand the thought process here that there has to be some super secret reason why they didn't get anymore songs into the game.

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The reason why people think there is more to it is pretty obvious... multiple appearances in Guitar Hero games and DLC, Singstar Guitar, Rocksmith, and the fact that we did get Hysteria.

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Originally Posted by Lucid_Delusion

Look, I would have loved more Muse songs in Rock Band but is it so hard to believe that it just didn't pan out?

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Things don't pan out because things happen, and what happened is what we want to know.

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Originally Posted by Lucid_Delusion

It's pretty clear the folks at Harmonix tried their damnedest to get as many artists into this game series as they could and for reasons beyond their control they couldn't get everyone they wanted or everyone that was requested. Despite this they still delivered tons of additional content to us over the course of the series' lifespan and on a weekly basis no less.

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No one here is saying they didn't try. :confused:

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Originally Posted by hmxhenry

Do you think it would help or hurt our chances of getting bands in the game if we were to say "oh, while in negotiations, this band did this" or "this band's label wanted X, Y and Z" or "this band member made this ridiculous request"? Airing that dirty laundry in public can only hurt our relationship with that band / label, and discourage other bands / labels from working with us again in the future. And yes, if we started talking openly about private negotiations or licensing deals, there could be legal consequences. That's why you haven't heard more than you have.

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Sorry about that Aaron, I posted that too hastily and have a reasonable answer for why now. Thanks anyway :)

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Originally Posted by Han Daimond

Several years later and still waiting for the real reason why Rock Band had no more Muse songs, since it was the most requested band of all time and Guitar Hero had no problems having more songs from them. It just doesn't make sense, seems unfair.

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Just as an FYI, Muse isn't the most requested band of all time. They're in the top 10 via the forums and they're the most requested via RB World, but they're not the most requested band of all time.

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Originally Posted by Munnchy

Sorry about that Aaron, I posted that too hastily and have a reasonable answer for why now. Thanks anyway :)

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No worries, I understand. You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by hmxhenry

Just as an FYI, Muse isn't the most requested band of all time. They're in the top 10 via the forums and they're the most requested via RB World, but they're not the most requested band of all time.

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I have a feeling that honour either went to the beatles, or jimmy pages crew...

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Originally Posted by hmxhenry

Just as an FYI, Muse isn't the most requested band of all time. They're in the top 10 via the forums and they're the most requested via RB World, but they're not the most requested band of all time.

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Guessing that would either be The Beatles or Green Day (since GD was the most-requested artist through rockband.com song requests, I think).

I would guess it's Green Day too.

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Originally Posted by grumblevolcano

I would guess it's Green Day too.

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Why would you guess it when they've said it repeatedly?

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Originally Posted by Witticus

Why would you guess it when they've said it repeatedly?

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I think they said Green Day (artist) was the most requested song.