Of the big racing genres GT is the worst of them. That and early Forza. At least later Forzas become a bit more arcadey

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Originally Posted by www1221

Of the big racing genres GT is the worst of them. That and early Forza. At least later Forzas become a bit more arcadey

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If you're looking for an arcade game, GT5 is absolute sh*t. But if you want a simulation game with more than one specific kind of racing I can't think of another game you could get for the PS3 that would be as good as this one.

If I remember right, the main reason I bought GT5 was for the Nascar in it. EA had let go of Nascar about two years before, and nobody else had done any work to start making a full nascar game. Honestly the nascar that is in this game isn't that great. Only about 8 drivers with 2 schemes each and the only two tracks being Daytona and Indianapolis. (surprises me we didn't even get one of the two road courses) I guess I shouldn't expect a full 43 car feild with all of the tracks from a game like GT5, but I imagined that the racing from those 8 cars taking up 16 spots (two of each car) would be a bit more realistic. It seems when at Daytona, you don't even have a restrictor plate in.

After I played more than just the nascar, I began to like the game more and more. I don't play it nearly as often as I did, but it's still a fantastic game.

edit: I suspended the race (basically a mid-race save for those of you not fimiliar with GT5) after about 3 straight hours where I completed 109 laps. I'll do the other 63 laps some other time.

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Originally Posted by Runesmith

As a non-racing game fan, I had the most fun with Star Wars: Episode 1 Racer. You can keep your realistic cars; I'll take the souped up podracer. I also really dig Wave Race and F-Zero.

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Podracing was surprisingly awesome. I agree.

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Originally Posted by www1221

Yes it makes perfect sense. Need For Speed always sold better than Burnout. It makes sense to have all the racing games under one name even if they are two totally different games. Black Box hasnt made a good game in years. Criterion is the A-team and just like Call of Duty the good and bad games will be alternating years.

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So, instead of having two pretty good games, we now have one terrible/decent game? Criterion can make a Burnout, they can't make an NFS to save their lives and they've now proven that twice.

And the last time Criterion made a good game? That was all the way back in 2008 if I recall. Hot Pursuit and Most Wanted are hardly good games, Hot Pursuit was decent at best and Most Wanted is flat out miserable nearly as bad as The Run which is the only Black Box game where they failed miserably and the reason they failed was probably because they were trying to be like Criterion!! Aha, it all makes sense now.

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Originally Posted by www1221

Of the big racing genres GT is the worst of them. That and early Forza. At least later Forzas become a bit more arcadey

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We get it, you hate simulation.

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Originally Posted by nascargo19

If you're looking for an arcade game, GT5 is absolute sh*t. But if you want a simulation game with more than one specific kind of racing I can't think of another game you could get for the PS3 that would be as good as this one.

If I remember right, the main reason I bought GT5 was for the Nascar in it. EA had let go of Nascar about two years before, and nobody else had done any work to start making a full nascar game. Honestly the nascar that is in this game isn't that great. Only about 8 drivers with 2 schemes each and the only two tracks being Daytona and Indianapolis. (surprises me we didn't even get one of the two road courses) I guess I shouldn't expect a full 43 car feild with all of the tracks from a game like GT5, but I imagined that the racing from those 8 cars taking up 16 spots (two of each car) would be a bit more realistic. It seems when at Daytona, you don't even have a restrictor plate in.

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And the car engines sound like a Maserati instead of a Nascar engine. :p

It's ridiculous how they handled their Nascar license. But, the license was out there and nobody bought it yet after EA, so they ate up their opportunity knowing that a lot of Nascar fans without a doubt would now purchase a GT game with the Nascar name attached to it and that's what happened. Bought the license, threw in some big name drivers and a couple tracks and advertised the hell out it which pretty much screamed, "we have Nascar and nobody else does!!!" And what happened? People bought it just for that reason and were greatly disappointed when the only thing Nascar about it was the couple tracks they had and the few drivers they had.

As far as simulators go, GT and Forza are pretty much the only 2 people recognize, but there's also a little known one called Enthusia on the PS2 that was a lot of fun in its day. I remember it had the weight diagram and you had to balance the weight on your tires through the turns, it was weird, but fun.

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Originally Posted by Mega-Tallica

So, instead of having two pretty good games, we now have one terrible/decent game? Criterion can make a Burnout, they can't make an NFS to save their lives and they've now proven that twice.

And the last time Criterion made a good game? That was all the way back in 2008 if I recall. Hot Pursuit and Most Wanted are hardly good games, Hot Pursuit was decent at best and Most Wanted is flat out miserable nearly as bad as The Run which is the only Black Box game where they failed miserably and the reason they failed was probably because they were trying to be like Criterion!! Aha, it all makes sense now.

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Need For Speed isnt one thing. You cant say they cant make a good NFS game when its been a bunch of things over its life. The one thing Need For Speed has always been is a racing franchise and Criterion is the best at that.

Black Box hasnt made a good racing game since 2004 or 2005. Hot Pursuit wasnt great but it is better than the other recent Need For Speed game and Most Wanted was just below great. The NFS games before Hot Pursuit didnt look as bad as they are because there was nothing good to compare them to. Now there is with the Criterion games.

The argument that Criterion games arent Need For Speed games is the same argument as the people that say "Its Rock Band not Pop Band".

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Originally Posted by www1221

Need For Speed isnt one thing. You cant say they cant make a good NFS game when its been a bunch of things over its life. The one thing Need For Speed has always been is a racing franchise and Criterion is the best at that.

Black Box hasnt made a good racing game since 2004 or 2005. Hot Pursuit wasnt great but it is better than the other recent Need For Speed game and Most Wanted was just below great. The NFS games before Hot Pursuit didnt look as bad as they are because there was nothing good to compare them to. Now there is with the Criterion games.

The argument that Criterion games arent Need For Speed games is the same argument as the people that say "Its Rock Band not Pop Band".

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So now we're going to start the "my opinion is better than your opinion" part of the argument? This is useless and I'm bored, but not nearly as bored as I am with this Most Wanted game. I knew I should have waited for it to end up in the bargain bin at Wal-Mart before getting it and I still have 6 Most Wanted cars to go...ugh.

Rock Band 3 , funnily enough.

The last NFS game I liked was Carbon.

Hot Pursuit 2010 was awful, I took it back first week I bought it.

I'm considering The Run as a next purchase.

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Originally Posted by Gowienczyk

I'm considering The Run as a next purchase.

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I'd reconsider, especially if you didn't like Hot Pursuit, The Run is so much worse and there's much less to do than there is in Hot Pursuit or Most Wanted. You can blow through the story mode in a day that's how short it is and the Challenges don't have much to offer and that's literally all the game has aside from multiplayer.

And it's not open world which doesn't help its cause any.