Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gowienczyk

It's a welcome change to some of my previous experiences with replies on genre classification.

---

Meaning me, I'm guessing. I just don't see the frikkin point of ragegasming over "This is METAL GODDAMNIT!" "No, **** YOU, this is HARD ROCK!" And so on.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gowienczyk

However, I do think an artist's interpetation is something to be weighed in the genre "assessment" to a degree. As the artists perception does exist and isn't imagined completely. Moving on from that, I do thank you for taking my answers evenly instead of reacting obtusely to them. It's a welcome change to some of my previous experiences with replies on genre classification.

---

Your quite welcome, I very much enjoy civil debates. I know some people get crazy passionate and downright ignorant, especially with metal genres/sub-genres.

I still feel that the artist is the one who knows what the song is about. I could right a song about a puppy who gets lost and ends up getting found, and someone could try to claim it's a song about losing faith and then finding it again. No, I felt like writing a damn children's song! just with more blast beats :p

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SheSaidSheSaid

Meaning me, I'm guessing. I just don't see the frikkin point of ragegasming over "This is METAL GODDAMNIT!" "No, **** YOU, this is HARD ROCK!" And so on.

---

I'm speaking more of experiences on gaiaonline, though some of your thoughts on the subject seem like preludes to less than understanding conversations. And I don't see the point of the "common" individual (someone who doesn't know anything about music for example) getting antsy over it. But knowing the difference between several subsects is just the same as understanding the difference between psychological thriller/horror and slasher horror-- as a pretext for reccomendations, understanding and just plain intriuqe. Music history and classification is just as interesting as anything else in a classification school.

As for why people do it? People feel very attached to their genres (punk, alternative and metal are the biggest ones for this) and identify with what they mean, what they represent and despise anything that stakes claim to it that is meaning otherwise. I personally am not offended when someone claims something is metal or punk, when I get offended it's based on their lack of knowledge regarding the issue or their arrogant self-righteousness; but usually a combination of all three.

I also take offense when someone says my passions (genre classification being one) is pointless, worthless or irrelevant however, which is why I got a jolt in my neck upon your first post regarding genres.

Quote:

---

I still feel that the artist is the one who knows what the song is about. I could right a song about a puppy who gets lost and ends up getting found, and someone could try to claim it's a song about losing faith and then finding it again. No, I felt like writing a damn children's song! just with more blast beats

---

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_o...nterpretations

It happens.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sargehalo51

Your quite welcome, I very much enjoy civil debates. I know some people get crazy passionate and downright ignorant, especially with metal genres/sub-genres.

---

Subgenres are even worse.

"No this is black metal!"

"No this is doom metal!"

"No this is speed metal!"

It's a big angry song with loud, fast guitars. You know where to go in a record store (LOL like anyone goes to a record store anymore) if you want to buy it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SheSaidSheSaid

Subgenres are even worse.

"No this is black metal!"

"No this is doom metal!"

"No this is speed metal!"

It's a big angry song with loud, fast guitars. You know where to go in a record store (LOL like anyone goes to a record store anymore) if you want to buy it.

---

Metal is so much beyond "angry, loud and fast", in fact a few metal genres are the antithesis of this belief. I still find substyles interesting and discussing them is always something to take in and learn something about other perceptions or outlooks. Though, I really wish your posts about this wouldn't feel so patronizing to me.

Nor yours to me. You're basically saying I'm too stupid to enjoy what you enjoy.

I'm not going any further with this.

Quote:

---

Nor yours to me. You're basically saying I'm too stupid to enjoy what you enjoy.

---

Never said so, in fact the only thing that implies such is my friend Patrick's quotation; which I bolded the reference I was going for in it-- which has no insult. I have been nothing but level and respectful in this case.

Reading nothing else(tempting as it is to read Gowi's works, it's far too late to focus), I'm just going to say the artist CAN say which is right, but that doesn't mean the fans need to agree or stay quiet about it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SheSaidSheSaid

(LOL like anyone goes to a record store anymore)

---

i do....