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  • 09-04-2012 12:40 AM
    darkwinterbeast8
    The Bears are stoppable, especially with an injury to Jay Cutler like last season.
  • 09-04-2012 03:01 AM
    Bront20
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    Originally Posted by darkwinterbeast8 View Post
    The Bears are stoppable, especially with an injury to Jay Cutler like last season.

    The Packers are stoppable, especially with an injury to Rodgers.

    You could stay that for 10 other teams. Cutler has been generally healthy in his career, and it was a bone injury, not a soft tissue injury. But most teams are an injury or two away from going from good to mediocre.
  • 09-04-2012 03:02 AM
    Cubecubed
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    The Bears are a better team than the Lions, who are still young, injured, and are having trouble staying out of jail. And yes, I'm a Bears fan, but I still see them with a better record than the Lions. The Lions could be the 2nd Wildcard after the Bears, but I think either Seattle (who could surprise folks), Atlanta/New Orleans (whoever doesn't win that division) or Philly could also jump up and snag it.

    LolJayCutler. The Lions are a better team than the Bears, even with all their issues. That's how good Stafford and Megatron are.
  • 09-04-2012 03:25 AM
    Bront20
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    LolJayCutler. The Lions are a better team than the Bears, even with all their issues. That's how good Stafford and Megatron are.

    Who's going to run the ball?

    Also the Bears D is better, and I don't trust Detroit's Maturity.

    Besides, Stafford has made it though how many seasons uninjured?
  • 09-04-2012 09:59 AM
    JBlack240
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    Who's going to run the ball?

    Running the ball is pretty much becoming obsolete in the NFL so they could just throw anybody out there.
  • 09-04-2012 01:34 PM
    Cubecubed
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    Originally Posted by Bront20 View Post
    Who's going to run the ball?

    Also the Bears D is better, and I don't trust Detroit's Maturity.

    Besides, Stafford has made it though how many seasons uninjured?

    unless you count non throwing hand finger injuries, 2. Yeah, you don't need to run the ball when you can pass, even with everybody knowing you're gonna pass, and still do well. Having the most physically gifted receiver in perhaps 25 years will do that for you, in addition to having a QB with easily the strongest arm in the NFL.
  • 09-04-2012 07:40 PM
    HeyRiles
    I'd consider Terrell Owens to be more physically gifted than Calvin, but not by much
  • 09-05-2012 12:32 AM
    darkwinterbeast8
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    Originally Posted by Bront20 View Post
    The Packers are stoppable, especially with an injury to Rodgers.

    You could stay that for 10 other teams. Cutler has been generally healthy in his career, and it was a bone injury, not a soft tissue injury. But most teams are an injury or two away from going from good to mediocre.

    Everyone know the Packers are stoppable when their receivers have an off day (like last year's playoff game against the Giants or that regular season game against the Chiefs). And on top of that, opponents can pass the ball on the Packers easily as long as it's away from Charles Woodson.

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    Originally Posted by Bront20 View Post
    Who's going to run the ball?

    Teams with good running backs. Teams up by multiple TDs in with 7 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. Teams with horrible QBs.

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    Originally Posted by JBlack240 View Post
    Running the ball is pretty much becoming obsolete in the NFL so they could just throw anybody out there.

    It may not be in favor what with the way the passing game is these days but it's not like it's going to be no running plays like Arena Football.
  • 09-05-2012 04:39 AM
    Bront20
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    I'd consider Terrell Owens to be more physically gifted than Calvin, but not by much

    That's where the mental game comes in. I'm not sure I agree, but I can't say it's not an unreasonable assumption.

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    unless you count non throwing hand finger injuries, 2.

    What the injury is doesn't matter, the fact is he missed time in 2 different seasons (out of 3 he's played in).
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    Originally Posted by Cubecubed View Post
    Yeah, you don't need to run the ball when you can pass, even with everybody knowing you're gonna pass, and still do well. Having the most physically gifted receiver in perhaps 25 years will do that for you, in addition to having a QB with easily the strongest arm in the NFL.

    There are plenty of folks who have the arm Stafford has (Cutler has a great arm for example). And the Packers lost in the playoffs when their passing game got shut down, they couldn't do anything else on the ground either. You still need to be able to do both. See the Patriots as an example.

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    Originally Posted by darkwinterbeast8 View Post
    Teams with good running backs. Teams up by multiple TDs in with 7 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. Teams with horrible QBs.

    I was talking about Detroit specifically.
  • 09-05-2012 01:39 PM
    Cubecubed
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    Originally Posted by Bront20 View Post
    I was talking about Detroit specifically.

    Kevin Smith seems to be the candidate. He had some pretty good games last year before he got hurt, so he'll probably do just fine, at least to the extent that we need him. Not every team needs a Ray Rice. The Giants were near the bottom of the league in rushing last year, and they won the whole damn thing.

    Plenty of people may have the arm Stafford has, but his deep ball accuracy borders on astounding. Accuracy is one area where Cutler has serious issues.