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Wii DLC from the RBN

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  • 12-02-2012 02:34 AM
    Pii Three
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SirDavidTLynch View Post
    The Wii has always been the weakest system for Rock Band. I feel much worse for the PlayStation 3 players where Rock Band 1 and 2 started out pretty much equal, then RBN came around built on the Xbox, then XMB crashes.

    I know, your right about the wii... BUT<--- right now its about if it is profitable for HMX to continue supporting the game for the wii. I believe that a lego RB export to RB3 would be profitable they can do it but should they? The RB blitz songs 3 songs? and then they make a statement like buy these 3 songs like them or not and then we will decide to SELL you the rest? Thats just wrong.
    Five of my favorite songs are now stuck in limbo and mostlikely will never be available.
  • 12-02-2012 02:42 AM
    Pii Three
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oscarvarium View Post
    Like I said, it's understandable for the Wii user who actually are interested in the RBN to be upset but you also need to think of things from Harmonix's point of view. If it's costing them more money than it's earning them, there's no way it's going to keep happening. If there was one single person on the Wii who bought every single song released but nobody else bought any, the result would be the same even though it wouldn't be fair on that person. Everyone would love for all platforms to be totally equal, but sadly it just isn't always practical.

    Its not just with RBN though, its with regular DLC aswell free or paid. And exports.
  • 12-02-2012 02:50 AM
    SirDavidTLynch
    I don't see Harmonix ever giving much priority to exporting a side game from three years ago to the console that has always had the lowest DLC sales.
  • 12-02-2012 03:47 AM
    Pii Three
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SirDavidTLynch View Post
    I don't see Harmonix ever giving much priority to exporting a side game from three years ago to the console that has always had the lowest DLC sales.

    The point im trying to make with that is that it would be profitable, worth the time and effort they put into making it export. The game alone may not have been a success but as a track pack for RB3? Im pretty sure that wii owners would buy the game if they dont have it already and gladly pay an export fee.
  • 12-02-2012 04:25 AM
    whypick1
    You seem to be doing a lot of assuming in regards to the buying habits of Wii RB players. HMX has this data, you don't. If they say it's not worth it, it probably isn't.
  • 12-02-2012 08:02 AM
    Santa Claustrophobia
    You don't understand, man. It would be profitable. That's the point he's making, dude. Just like the scads of people who'd pay $60 for BRB to be included in RB3. They're out there!





    One, he ignores anything that is slightly negative about his purchase choices. Two, he demands only 'official' confirmation to his questions. Three, he keeps insisting that his habits reflect the habits of many, many others.

    There is no way to convince a person like this that they're out of luck.
  • 12-02-2012 09:55 AM
    ThatAuthoringGroup
    From an insiders perspective on the RBN :

    I know that even our best selling songs are hardly cracking 1000 downloads any longer (we have very VERY rare ones that go above that, but that's like 1 out of every 30 or so if even that).

    So if back when the RBN was going strong and songs were selling 5-10 thousand copies on the 360, and the wii wasn't cracking 1000 on those same songs....what do you think they'd sell like now that the average sales on a 360 song is around 500?

    So I can say with the utmost confidence that if the Wii wasn't doing enough RBN business back in they heyday of Rock Band Network to justify porting songs, there is absolutely no way in blue hell that there is enough people buying songs on the Wii now that the franchise is in its twilight years.

    Just not gonna happen.
  • 12-02-2012 12:07 PM
    SheSaidSheSaid
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GameMaster439 View Post
    so is Aly (SheSaidSheSaid) :)

    =)

    I try my best.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pii Three View Post
    snip

    Sorry, is there a gentle, loving way to say "Wii users as a collective bought almost nothing from RBN, so it long ago stopped making sense to port songs there?"

    To me that sounds exactly as polite or impolite as what I posted in the first place.
  • 12-02-2012 01:08 PM
    Pii Three
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by whypick1 View Post
    You seem to be doing a lot of assuming in regards to the buying habits of Wii RB players. HMX has this data, you don't. If they say it's not worth it, it probably isn't.

    I guess your "if" and "probably" are not assumtions? Right? You are right though HMX have the data, AND you know what as someone who owns a wii, I have data too!
    Thanks, Santa Claustrophobia. Harmonix is shooting themselves in thier collective foot by wishing the wii/wiiu didnt exist, AND also are creating a breeding ground for other console users to bash us to silence or quitting forumside on this site and not expect anything which inturn they stop buying from this company. I also dont believe in luck. :)
  • 12-02-2012 01:15 PM
    SheSaidSheSaid
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pii Three View Post
    I guess your "if" and "probably" are not assumtions? Right? You are right though HMX have the data, AND you know what as someone who owns a wii, I have data too!

    Not enough to know what the right business decisions for HMX are, and it's kinda shocking that as a reasonable person you think you do.

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    Originally Posted by Pii Three View Post
    Thanks, Santa Claustrophobia. Harmonix is shooting themselves in thier collective foot by wishing the wii/wiiu didnt exist

    That's just not true. No amount of you saying it will make it so. The Wii player base for RB is a tiny fraction of the whole. If you broke it into a pie chart, it's something like 70/25/5 in terms of percentages, and that might even be overstating the Wii's presence. If this is still about RBN, bear in mind that RBN songs sell substantially less than HMX DLC on Xbox and PS3, so we're now talking about a microscopic sliver of a tiny fraction. They've said it required substantially greater time and effort to port RBN songs to Wii than to PS3.

    But you "think it would be profitable," so they should do it. Got it.