Is there a way to, like, reset the leaderboards, but not delete our star count? Because all I've cared about lately is my gold star count

At this point they really need to reset the leaderboards. As bad as it might seem to those (like me) who have played a lot of unique songs, it's better than leaving scores on the leaderboards which are now unattainable.

There are a couple songs (Child In Time, Madness) which after the update are now probably not possible to get gold stars on. (Bonus for me since Ive played so many songs they will soon delete my star data in game and I wont be able to get it back due to this update! Yay!)

As a result of this the scoring system is now a complete snafu. They need to also fix the bandmate/flame exploit and then reset the leaderboards. Only then will I have any desire to play this game again.

3 words; this is bull.

I don't like this change, not one bit. Yes, more blast notes are added in but SERIOUSLY? Flame notes were relied on for getting high scores, and now with the value of the Flame Notes decrease, not only is it going to be hard , if not flat out IMPOSSIBLE to gold star some songs (The Complexity of Light, Child in Time), but unless you are a god at Pinball, TONS of scores will now be broken, and impossible to beat. There's only two options I want from this, either they change it back to the way it was before, or they reset the leaderboards (which will piss a lot of people off considering it might have taken ages for them to get a 1st place), and they change some of the cutoffs on some songs to compensate for this change.

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Originally Posted by Mircosoft93

please reset the leaderboards

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Unfortunately they will have to reset the leaderboards if they nerfed this on purpose. Most scores can not be passed now with any build. I should know as I cannot pass any of my own scores which are on the top of the songs I play.

If this change stays and they do not reset the leaderboards there is no point to play the game anymore. People play to pass their high scores. Now its not possible.

They should have left it they way it was. No matter what the power ups do the same people will be on the top of the boards. You do not get to the top because you are the only one using Flame notes. Everyone can use them. You get to the top by being good.

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Originally Posted by cowboys282

They should have left it they way it was.

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no, they shouldn't. I'm happy they did something against the band/flame exploit. I don't even care if there are now songs that are nearly impossible to GS (CiT, Tuesdays Gone...), but as you've said already many scores are now basically unbeatable (except maybe with pinball/sync) and highscore hunting is the only thing that motivates me to play Blitz

So, I guess I probably have to take a large part of the blame for this, huh?

I'll be the first to admit that flame notes were ridiculously overpowered. Be it bandmate or jackpot as a companion to it, they were pretty much the best option on almost every song. So I, and many other, used flame notes. Is that not what we are supposed to do? Is the point of the game not to get the highest score possible?

So now flame notes have been nerfed. I have not played the game since this change occured, and probably won't tonight, but it seems like flame notes are now pretty worthless. Now, I'm probably a bit biased, but was this drastic a nerf necessary to fix the perceived problem? Is this at all the best way to go about fixing it?

The power ups were not balanced, and this change doesn't fix that. The best note powerup is now going to be blast notes, because lord knows runaway notes are worthless and pinball is too volatile to be used well consistently. Overdrive powerups like bottle rocket or even road rage pale in comparison to jackpot. So what does this change fix? Something needed to be changed, sure, but that change should have come as buffs to other powerups and blitz mode.

Yeah, it's possible to mash with bandmate/flame to get good scores. The thing is, no one seemed to be doing that. I got good at bandmate/flame legitimately, and I've posted a number of videos that I hope proves that. This nerf changes that, but in the meantime makes most of the top scores, obtained legitimately, completely unbreakable. Maybe you question the idea of "two notes, one timing window" as legitimate play, but this nerf doesn't fix that, and the new top scores are still going to be ones that can utilize that strategy to accumulate extra overdrive and hit extra notes.

So what do you do about the leaderboards? Do you reset them entirely and punish everyone including those who did nothing "wrong?" Do you reset just people like me and send a middle finger to long-time customers because you don't like the way they learned to play the game? Either way, you piss off a lot of people, more than you make happy with this change.

This seems like a knee-jerk reaction to a situation that is perceived as worse than it really was.

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no, they shouldn't. I'm happy they did something against the band/flame exploit. I don't even care if there are now songs that are nearly impossible to GS (CiT, Tuesdays Gone...), but as you've said already many scores are now basically unbeatable (except maybe with pinball/sync) and highscore hunting is the only thing that motivates me to play Blitz

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If they did this to fix the Bandmate/Flame expliot thats one thing but it destroyed the best combo in the game. That was Jackpot/Flame. Yes it was inconsistent but you still needed skill to get a top score using that combo.

The fix is simple yet probably complicated for Harmonix to do. Flame notes should not be random but consistent. That takes the luck out of it and leaves it to pure skill.

But if they are going to nerf the Flames they need to reset the leaderboards because like you the only reason to play is to get the high score. To many high scores are now no longer possible.

The Bandmate/Flame affected so few songs. I just don't understand the logic in this decision.

Yeah... I'm pretty much done with this as well then if that's a) intentional and b) permanent. I've played just about all the songs in my library, have held on to a first overall slot on the leaderboards for most of the time, and don't really have much incentive to go back and replay the songs to try to get higher scores when it'll be impossible now that flame notes give just over 1/5th of their previous value.

Hope you fix it, guys.

So, if they reset the leaderboards...and somebody somehow finds another exploit, will everybody be asking for the leaderboards to be wiped out again?

This is not the right thing to do.

PLEASE DON'T DO IT.

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So, if they reset the leaderboards...and somebody somehow finds another exploit, will everybody be asking for the leaderboards to be wiped out again?

This is not the right thing to do.

PLEASE DON'T DO IT.

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Either they rebuff flame notes to 1.5k points each again or they reset the leaderboards completely. They can't leave it like this where many of the top scores are impossible to beat and the entire leaderboards are completely worthless now.

I'd rather have all the scores on the leaderboards be after the patch if they really insist on the flame note nerf. Otherwise revert flame notes to their original value. Flame notes are completely worthless now. They are even worse than Runaway Notes.