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Originally Posted by Alternity

You can't play without reading (unless you know the part by heart), what I mean by playing with sound is not trying to hit when the note is at the place where it should be hitted, but instead using the sound to know when to hit the note, using the rythm, the beat...

Kinda hard to explain the concept of the timing window.. lol

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I let my husband take care of that. HE was trying to explain how he does it, and it started giving me a headache, so I let him do his thing. He played progressively more difficult songs on expert to test the audio, and he finally came up with a number he says works for him. I will go with that.

He's also a drummer, but I am not sure the drum set works well enough to calibrate with it ( he's a little hard on it :) )

Thanks for all the info :)

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Originally Posted by pixie126

Well, we have the audio set at 120. My husband likes it for his playing guitar on expert. I was able to 98% (hard) in training mode a song I can sing with my eyes closed. The only problem came with the tambourine taps, but eh....if I have to try a little harder with those so be it.
We will have to see how we like it when playing together.

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Never go by % on vocals as your calibration tool, even if you're playing on Expert. I can 100% songs on Expert even with calibration being off by as much as 50ms in many cases.

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I also took the TV off game mode.

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No, no, no, no. It's a game console. Leave that input on Game Mode!

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The brightness was irritating my eyes so I went to movie mode which is what we usually watch.

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Then turn down the brightness and calibrate your TV brightness/contrast? Don't mess around with your settings and live with horrible lag.

Most TVs these days only apply brightness and contrast settings on a per-input basis, so changing it on one input should not affect settings on other inputs.

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Just an fyi the TV is officially a Sharp Aquos LC-60LE640OU. Had to search for that on the back of the tv.

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I'm drawing information from the manual from Sharp USA on your TV, and it does look like it supports independent settings for brightness, etc. per input.

I'm concerned about your comment regarding not seeing a difference in calibration between Game Mode and Movie Mode. That should not happen, ever, unless your sense of timing is really far off. You say your husband plays on Expert Guitar, though, so I'm not sure what to make of that.

Bear in mind that it's very easy to become accidentally accustomed to bad calibrations - so much so that an actually good calibration will "feel bad".

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Originally Posted by Icemage

No, no, no, no. It's a game console. Leave that input on Game Mode!

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this. no matter what you do with the calibration, not putting it on game mode makes it so bad that you simply can't get it right.

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Originally Posted by jibjqrkl

this. no matter what you do with the calibration, not putting it on game mode makes it so bad that you simply can't get it right.

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My tv is in movie mode and it works right. I like the picture better in movie mode.

AFAIK, anyways on my TV, those modes only affect picture and not the lag.

I was looking through the manual for the tv and have you tried turning the motion enhancement and digital noise reduction settings off?

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Originally Posted by nuttzo31

I was looking through the manual for the tv and have you tried turning the motion enhancement and digital noise reduction settings off?

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Game Mode turns those off - that's sort of the point, as those features are major contributors to lag.

I fixed the calibrations in game mode so that I can put the tv on that. I haven't talked my husband into playing yet, so I don't know what will happen when we both attempt it. I keep motion enhancement and noise reduction off even in movie mode, because I can't stand the too realistic lookingness of movies and tv shows with that stuff on. It's too freaky for me. :)