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    RB Eye Openers

    What artists have you come to appreciate more from playing RB?

    (Not what artists have you discovered from playing RB -- separate topic. Rather, name an artist you thought you knew but when you...
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    Not necessarily -- people can come up with...

    Not necessarily -- people can come up with original ideas completely by accident (Ike Turner's amp getting wet and playing distorted) or because they don't know any better (any number of examples of...
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    Gomez Bring It On -- Really holds up. Great...

    Gomez

    Bring It On -- Really holds up. Great stuff
    Liquid Skin
    In Our Gun
    Split the Difference
    How We Operate
    A New Tide

    Still getting acquainted with a couple of these -- they grow on...
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    Taking my 12 year old twins to the Shoreline...

    Taking my 12 year old twins to the Shoreline Ampitheater show in August.

    Should be fun.
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    Don't know how I missed this thread. One...

    Don't know how I missed this thread.

    One concert jumps immediately to mind -- Doors at Hollywood Bowl in summer of 1969. They were just flat out wasted. If I hadn't been with a large group (and...
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    I'm not aware of any Beatles/Stones rivalry,...

    I'm not aware of any Beatles/Stones rivalry, unless it was in the Stones' heads. Don't think it ever meant anything to the Beatles.

    Only rivalry for Beatles was Beach Boys. And that was mostlly...
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    FYI -- speaking of great guitarists who have...

    FYI -- speaking of great guitarists who have taught great guitarists, Pat Metheny can count among his students Al Di Meola and Mike Stern.

    Pat was made a guitar instructor at the eminent...
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    Having seen Steve play with Frank back in the...

    Having seen Steve play with Frank back in the late 70's I'd have to agree with Axl. Steve was already pretty well-formed, but I'm sure he picked up great ideas wherever he could find them -- and he...
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    Huge Beach Boys fan here. But I have to say...

    Huge Beach Boys fan here. But I have to say there's some inherent silliness in Smile (Vegetables, for example) that I just have trouble getting past. It's as if McCartney had kept "Scrambled Eggs"...
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    Well -- Dylan is a direct link not only to...

    Well --

    Dylan is a direct link not only to Woody Guthrie and the folkies but also to the beat poets who were a tremendous influence on the hippies.

    Beatles psychedelia was a huge influence --...
  11. Umm -- the non-performers??? Anyone check that...

    Umm -- the non-performers??? Anyone check that list?

    Those are some of the very best songwriters in rock history.

    To quote from the induction:



    Far from the best list of performers...
  12. While A21 and Soror get a room ... I got to...

    While A21 and Soror get a room ...

    I got to thinking about a guy who really belongs on this list -- but very few know or think about.

    His name is Bob Gaudio, and he wrote most of the material...
  13. Yep -- there's a tradition in jazz and even...

    Yep -- there's a tradition in jazz and even classical of giving separate credit to the composer and the arranger. I like that.

    Realistically, this is all about money. Ginger's pissed because...
  14. I don't think this idea of who influenced the...

    I don't think this idea of who influenced the sound or quality of the tracks will work -- then the only thing that could possibly count would be albums where the only player is the artist. Joni...
  15. Agreed -- but the criteria on the list are really...

    Agreed -- but the criteria on the list are really ill-defined. I gave the example before of the CSN album that's on the list. So they aren't consistent by any means.

    To my way of thinking, any...
  16. Just to clarify, my point was just that...

    Just to clarify, my point was just that songwriting is not ONLY about the lyrics.

    Some stand out for lyrics (e.g., Dylan), some for music (Brian Wilson, Sting), some are outstanding on both score...
  17. Well this list is based on a whole different set...

    Well this list is based on a whole different set of criteria -- first it's based on single albums, and then it's supposedly about artists who can "do it all by themselves."

    Even by those criteria...
  18. songwriting = lyrics?? I think not. Brian...

    songwriting = lyrics?? I think not.

    Brian Wilson is not on this list because of his lyrics. Neither is Paul McCartney, IMO.
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    Sorry to say I'm really tired about that argument. They "steal" elements -- never heard 'em "steal" a whole song if you insist on using that word. Listen to the "originals" and listen to what...
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    Poll: I got bad pressings of Sticky Fingers and Abraxas...

    I got bad pressings of Sticky Fingers and Abraxas that really ticked me off.

    And guess what, record stores don't take 'em back because "they don't sound as good as they should."

    "Are they...
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