The Hip-Hop Appreciation Thread

[afterstasis]

Heeey!

[Backbeat60-62]

It seems that it is a direct antecedent. Not developed from beat poetry, but as you said one of its visible and non-visible draws possibly.. I went to your link and listened to the words and I have to ask you, is this person talking about the Black Panthers organizing black men military style and marching them through major cities and towns of the USA armed with rifles as a show of force against everything "white"???? As I have seen in old black and white footage from the Sixties? A new civil war (or a race war) that starts without warning, not mentioned on TV or radio, but that happens live on the streets? I mean, it appears the Black Panthers were seriously intent on hurting some people, this wasn't escapist fantasy, this was for real. Anyway the aggressive/warning tone of Gil's voice in that recording sounds similar to what I would expect from hip hop, so you and Kanye must be right. I don't think the 1950s beat poet era has that kind of vocalized anger behind it, but I'm not sure. Seems a lot of politics were involved with the Black Panthers. On the opposite end, I have also heard about a group of people from that time (1970) calling themselves the White Panthers, and their music sounds more like prototypical punk, in other words, also very angry sounding. These two political factions were at odds? Is this why hip hop and punk came to fruition in the late 1970s. Two polar opposite ends or do you think they had a common cause?

[Lameboy19]

Heeey!

stasis is this your home bbq? because I want an invite for the next one.

[Gowienczyk]

The foreboding, alarming beat poetry of Gil Scott-Heron, The Last Poets is definitely reactionary art at it's finest, though I'm hardly the biggest enthusiast of poetry, let alone beat poetry. As for if Gil was indeed warning of a possible outcome of breaking tension from the BPPSD and Nixon politics? It's definitely likely. But yes, hip-hop and punk were reactionary and very political genres which is why the two seem to contrast very well, I think. This is evident with consious hip-hop musicians covering punk songs for another example Arthur down the line. As for your other questions I don't exactly know how to approach them.

[exploder]

I love Dre's 2001, it's no Chronic, and most of the lyrics are Gangsta Rap cliches, but the beats on it are amazing.

[Gowienczyk]

Listened to Pigeon John's latest, which is actually from 2010 (man am I late) but I liked it; seems more Outkasty then anything, though.

[Gowienczyk]

Running through BEP's debut, such a shame they became a lifeless joke after their first two albums which were solid Pharcyde lite stuff.

[Witticus]

Running through BEP's debut, such a shame they became a lifeless joke after their first two albums which were solid Pharcyde lite stuff.

I'm sorry I set you off on this spree.

[Gowienczyk]

I'm sorry I set you off on this spree.

It's not like I dislike them.

[MrFruitLord]

Anyone else a fan of Danny Brown? I found him through a Das Racist song, and XXX really blew me away.