Is MasterMO real?

[zage1337]

i got like 170k above the 2nd place score on a David Bowie song 1st attempt by trying this...

I still think 4 lane songs are completely pointless. Jack/Flame sure is now unless the song is very long with high multipliers.

[HeyRiles]

Competing in Blitz is akin to putting a powder puff team on the field with an NFL team in one case and giving the other powderpuff team a little league team to play against.

Talk about hyperbole

geez

EDIT: That analogy makes less and less sense the more I look at it, to the point where it's simply nonsensical

[Diamaniacal]

EDIT: That analogy makes less and less sense the more I look at it, to the point where it's simply nonsensical

The whining that was going on about the leaderboards being worthless, with the way the powerups are randomized even without what was posted here it is irrelevant. Sorry that you lack what it takes to grasp that.

[MrPerson]

HMX has full control to unring this bell by patching the game. as far as hitting 2 notes that they didn't intend on you being able to hit.

But then there would be completely unbeatable leaderboard scores.

[zage1337]

But then there would be completely unbeatable leaderboard scores.

Unless you use the exact same strategy and setup MasterMO is currently using, the top leaderboard scores are already completely unbeatable anyways. You can't get those kind of scores with normal play. Even amazing jack/flame use, the scores are way too high and impossible. He found a method that essentially ruined the leaderboards on 4 lane songs and it's only a matter of time until all 4 lane song leaderboards look like the 3 lane song leaderboards.

[MasterMo]

The fact that you were the only one getting those high scores indicates nothing more than you were the only one using that method. It does not indicate how easy or difficult your method is.

Jack/Flame sure is now unless the song is very long with high multipliers.

These. These right here are what I feel like the issue is. What it looks like to me, the guy being made out the victim, is that everyone was content believing Jackpot/Flame was the best choice on the majority of songs and everyone had accepted that. No one was experimenting anymore because they were sure that they had figured out the end game. Now I've come and, only because I was called out for it, proven that you didn't know the game as well as you thought. I've shown it is very possible to get scores comparable at worst, better at best to what you get from Jackpot/Flame without nearly as much risk. Or, hell I'll admit it, as much skill - though I still take exception to the idea that it takes none.

But, say what you will about Diamaniacal's analogy, he's absolutely right about the worthlessness of the leaderboards. This is about the leaderboards for a game that has a player base of, at absolute most judging from Rock Band World, 35 thousand people. How many of those people do you honestly believe give a crap about the leaderboards? Perhaps a better question is: how many gave a crap before today? Topping the leaderboards on most songs already required luck in addition to skill. That isn't changing, only the loadout used to accomplish the end goal.

Let's not forget the about game's broken coin system that is pointless at best and restrictive at worst - hey, I guess that isn't an issue anymore! But nope, I'm the one who ruined this otherwise perfect game.

This is absurd. I shouldn't have to defend how I choose to enjoy a video game - a single player one at that. I'm sorry that it somehow impacts the way you enjoy yours, even if I fail to understand how. But frankly, I think you all take this game too seriously.

[Diamaniacal]

MasterMO you don't owe these clowns that are calling you an exploiter any explanation.
You are exploiting nothing. I tip my hat to you. I had discovered being able to hit 2 flame notes accidentally. And you are right the ones that are howling the loudest here are the ones that just jumped on the jackpot/flames bandwagon because it looked good enough and others were saying it was best. Carry on, play the game and take #1 on every song, that's what I'd do if I could do it reliably enough

You beat a #1 that I had for several weeks, last time I looked it was still #3, the only reason I got it was because of an insanely luck flame notes run.

The leaderboard are already tainted by the luck factor, much more than they are by someone that honed in on the best strategy for the best score.

I'm willing to bet some of those accosting you for this couldn't hit the top 3 or 4 without a score where you did this.

[HeyRiles]

The whining that was going on about the leaderboards being worthless, with the way the powerups are randomized even without what was posted here it is irrelevant. Sorry that you lack what it takes to grasp that.

Your analogy implied that everyone had the same skill set and ability when saying everyone is the same team, and that the only difference between a good and bad run is where the purple notes are/who your opponent is. Your analogy was beyond stupid and made no sense to the argument at hand whatsoever

But other than that yes I feel really bad that I couldn't grasp your exceptionally flawed line of coherent thinking

I'm willing to bet some of those accosting you for this couldn't hit the top 3 or 4 without a score where you did this.

Absolutely incorrect, but you're on a roll so you may as well add 'jumping to conclusions' to your arsenal

[Diamaniacal]

Absolutely incorrect, but you're on a roll so you may as well add 'jumping to conclusions' to your arsenal

Wow so you know for a fact that everyone in here could do that? EVERY poster or are you just speaking for yourself?
He came in on his own free will, in quite a friendly and chipper manner and said "Yeah guys, I'm real" and then a moderator (of all people) outright called him an exploiter.

Relating it to pausing RB3 to rewind so you could hit a missed note?
^^^^^^ This is the dumbest analogy EVER. EVER

Look my analogy contained sarcasm I understand that it may be beyond your grasp so I'll break it down a bit more. The game itself by it's random nature provides a playing field where you might as well have powder puff teams playing professional.

Look at it like this. If there were different types of score wars, where you could initiate a challenge, where you couldn't restart, and got to set the paramters for powerups and once you started that was your run, and you only got one run. The random nature of the game with 2 equally skilled players would give one of them a better scoring run based on powerup placement.
You keep on playing over and over, or play once, it is all the same. That is how I got a number 1 score I beat one of MaximusDM's by a hefty margin and a few others, not because I was better skilled than him, hell I am not even remotely close to the level he plays, but all it took was one run after another until I got the right layout.

[HeyRiles]

Wow so you know for a fact that everyone in here could do that? EVERY poster or are you just speaking for yourself?

Your statement was that people reprimanding him for this exploit couldn't score a top five on their own anyway. This is absolutely incorrect. Anything else about the statement you attempt to change now in a new post is completely bunk. You didn't say anything about everyone getting top fives, and I didn't say anything about everyone getting top fives, you said those in this thread right now couldn't get top fives, and this is incorrect. I say this twice in case you didn't read it the first time

Relating it to pausing RB3 to rewind so you could hit a missed note?
^^^^^^ This is the dumbest analogy EVER. EVER

I don't think you comprehend what the pause exploit is, or you're confusing it with something else

Look my analogy contained sarcasm I understand that it may be beyond your grasp so I'll break it down a bit more.

You have a funny way of defining sarcasm. Sarcasm is usually defined as saying one thing but meaning something that is the opposite. So what you're trying to tell me is that your analogy contained sarcasm, which means it wasn't about girls playing football against high schoolers, which certainly doesn't make the analogy any less nonsensical but certainly would make me think better of you if I could actually believe that you understood what sarcasm is

The game itself by it's random nature provides a playing field where you might as well have powder puff teams playing professional.

Powder puff teams playing professional doesn't sound like it has anything to do with random. Or wait, are you saying now that with how random the game is you may as well have powder puff players playing professional Paul? Because that isn't an analogy at all. Unless you're saying the powder puff analogy with randomness is also something that is irrelevant to the randomness, in which case, yes, I cannot comprehend your argument here

Look at it like this. If there were different types of score wars, where you could initiate a challenge, where you couldn't restart, and got to set the paramters for powerups and once you started that was your run, and you only got one run. The random nature of the game with 2 equally skilled players would give one of them a better scoring run based on powerup placement.

This is true, and has nothing to do with the exploit anymore

You keep on playing over and over, or play once, it is all the same. That is how I got a number 1 score I beat one of MaximusDM's by a hefty margin and a few others, not because I was better skilled than him, hell I am not even remotely close to the level he plays, but all it took was one run after another until I got the right layout.

Now you're saying it's the same no matter how many times you play. But the purple notes are random. What are you trying to say here?