Grunge Clear-Up

[CheezerRox]

Okay, as many of you MAY now, I am a HUGE grunge fan. From NIRVANA and Alice in Chains to Mudhoney and the Melvins, it's all great. Unfortunately, grunge is constantly being mocked and/or misunderstood, and I thougt I might as well clear some stuff up for people who may not already know.

Grunge is a mixture of alternative rock, metal, and punk/hardcore punk.

Nevermind by NIRVANA, Ten by Pearl Jam, Superunknown by Soundgarden, Core by STP, Above by Mad Season, Apple and Shine (and anything else) by Mother Love Bone, and the like ARE NOT GRUNGE RECORDS!!! MOST ARE CORPORATE ALTERNATIVE ROCK RECORDS!!! OTHERS ARE OVER-PRODUCED HARD ROCK RECORDS, ET CETERA!!!!!

If Nevermind and Ten defined grunge, I wouldn't like it.

In Utero by NIRVANA, Vitalogy by Pearl Jam, anything by Alice in Chains (although it's closer to just plain metal),Rubberneck by the Toadies, Superfuzz Bigmuff by Mudhoney, Gluey Porch Treatments by The Melvins (although more metal, usually), the like ARE GRUNGE RECORDS!!!!!



Now, moving on to more recently, just because a genre has grunge in it doesn't mean it IS grunge. That's right people, I'm talking about post-grunge, that poppy alternative/hard rock we all hate. Okay, so the bands labeled as such listened to Nevermind, DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GRUNGE. Post-grunge is the red-headed step-child of grunge that was never meant to be, and never should have been. Nickelback and Staind and Godsmack and Everclear and others are all CORPORATE ROCK BANDS. That's not grunge.

Anyway, I could go on some more, but then i'd just ramble. That's the basics. Please, if not understood already, understand your early 90s alternative rock, my friend.

[benson111]

Thanks for clearing this up. I wouldnt know what to like from this "Genre?".

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[Gowienczyk]

A bit abrasive and sloppy definition there, OP. But you are trying.

[Lolicat]

Could you not have made the point in a more concise and clear manner without resorting to repitition and caps lock? I mean, I'm pretty sure most people in this forum 'got' your point already, without the pedantary of your post.

[CheezerRox]

Thanks for clearing this up. I wouldnt know what to like from this "Genre?".

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Everyone has their own musical tastes.

A bit abrasive and sloppy definition there, OP. But you are trying.

Well, thanks. I'm no column writer or poet, but I'm glad I can at least get my point across.

Could you not have made the point in a more concise and clear manner without resorting to repitition and caps lock? I mean, I'm pretty sure most people in this forum 'got' your point already, without the pedantary of your post.

Oh well, "this forum" will get over it. I mean, not to sound like a douche, but, as I stated before, I'm no writer. I just wanted to get something out there. Sorry if you think it was terrible, but then again, no one made you read it...

[benson111]

Everyone has their own musical tastes.

I am a fan of everything you listed. I just don't think it needs a definition.
Any more genres are too subjective, and un-necessary for me.
"Music" By definition, is "Music". If that makes sense.

[CheezerRox]

I am a fan of everything you listed. I just don't think it needs a definition.
Any more genres are too subjective, and un-necessary for me.
"Music" By definition, is "Music". If that makes sense.

Yeah, to be honest, I totally agree with you. But having an iPod and music on my computer makes me go all OCD on this genre thing because I like to be accurate. Plus, (musically) ignorant people annoy the **** out of me. By that, I mean today's youth and what-not.

[WhiffleBallTony]

I am a fan of everything you listed. I just don't think it needs a definition.
Any more genres are too subjective, and un-necessary for me.
"Music" By definition, is "Music". If that makes sense.

The only definition of music that I've actually found that works is "sound in time". It's from a ****ty teaching company DVD that supposedly explored music. It was quite possibly the worst excuse for a course I've ever seen, but that was the one thing that gave me some respect for the guy doing it.

[CheezerRox]

The only definition of music that I've actually found that works is "sound in time". It's from a ****ty teaching company DVD that supposedly explored music. It was quite possibly the worst excuse for a course I've ever seen, but that was the one thing that gave me some respect for the guy doing it.

That's basically what music is. I mean, just listen to some NIN or something and you'll know. XD

[benson111]

Yeah, to be honest, I totally agree with you. But having an iPod and music on my computer makes me go all OCD on this genre thing because I like to be accurate. Plus, (musically) ignorant people annoy the **** out of me. By that, I mean today's youth and what-not.

I find musically disinclined people a challenge, more than an annoyance. I feel the need to educate them and move on. That way they can look back and say..."Hey that guy was right ", that way instead of coming off like an "Asshat", or sounding pretentious, i can show them music that they may like in a genre, or "Feel" of music they may actually like.

Just me.