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    Drum fill lag?

    Hello. I've been playing Rock Band since it came out, about 2 years ago, and the first TV I played it on was an SDTV. Everything was fine. Well, my family got a high definition tv and that created an audio lag with the guitar when playing, so I calibrated and calibrated until it was spot on. And it was, for the drums as well.

    But then the fills come in.

    Those bits where you can play whatever you want? I have a blast doing them, as I play percussion for my band, and it was fun adding in my own piece to the song. But ever since I calibrated for the tv, the drum fills were just off, even though playing normally was spot on. I hit the pad and the note doesn't register on the tv until about .5 seconds later. This is especially noticeable when doing sixteenth note fills, and I finish when the tv is still going.

    Well I got the rock band 2 disc as well as the guitar, and it did some auto calibration and was spot on again, but the drum fills are still very, very off. Everything else is fine, though.

    Tl;dr: My audio calibration is spot on, but the drum fills register notes way too late. What gives? How do I fix it?

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    If the TV's doing both the video and audio processing, you're probably always going to get drum-fill lag. I have a Samsung LCD TV and I could never get the delay below 60ms or so.

    The solution: Home theater system. Run the Xbox right into the amplifier (DVD player controller unit thing), and bang, 4ms lag. Fills are amazing now.

    Not an inexpensive solution, but it does work. I don't think it's possible to feed the audio through the TV and not have drum-fill lag... if it is, I've yet to see anyone comment on how they did it.
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    Even on an SDTV you're going to have a tiny drum fill lag, but it's unavoidable on an HDTV. You need to plug the audio directly into speakers or it'll be crazy annoying.

    http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10861

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB4GDI View Post
    Even on an SDTV you're going to have a tiny drum fill lag, but it's unavoidable on an HDTV. You need to plug the audio directly into speakers or it'll be crazy annoying.

    http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10861

    -Jaime
    Well on my sdtv I didn't notice it at all. Guess I'll just get a cheap speaker system to plug my xbox into and see how it goes.

    Would any speakers work? I have some old computer speakers I could use

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    Yeah, you just need

    this

    http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2103710

    and this

    http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2102671

    if you're just using the red/white audio cables.

    -Jaime
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    I have an HDTV with a surround sound system and I have no lag whatsoever.

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    This has been answered before. Eliminate Dolby Digital from the equation if you're getting lag issues yuo can't get rid of. Disable DD from the game AND from the console settings (PS3 and XBOX both have this in the audio settings). Once you've done this you won't get any lag issue, although of course you won't get DD audio either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarDeliac View Post
    If the TV's doing both the video and audio processing, you're probably always going to get drum-fill lag. I have a Samsung LCD TV and I could never get the delay below 60ms or so.

    The solution: Home theater system. Run the Xbox right into the amplifier (DVD player controller unit thing), and bang, 4ms lag. Fills are amazing now.

    Not an inexpensive solution, but it does work. I don't think it's possible to feed the audio through the TV and not have drum-fill lag... if it is, I've yet to see anyone comment on how they did it.
    It has been backward for me. :P No lag when I was all on TV, but now I get lag with my 5.1 set.

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    ever since rock band introduced the new auto calibration feature(which i still consider a ploy to get people to buy the new guitar) 99% of people have had trouble with it. i can not use and it never worked properly with my so called new and improved rock band 2 strat(never mind the dropped notes about every 10 to 15 seconds). so i just manually did it and got it as close as possible as to the way i play.

    but others say that it feels off to them, so there really is no real way to calibrate it perfect for every instrument and/or person who plays it.

    which seems weird, seeing as on rock band 1 it was alot easier to calibrate and worked basically perfect.

    this and gold stars are at least 2 areas where i think hmx took a step backwards instead of forward. sorry if i couldnt have been more helpful, its just to different now on every single tv, and even on the same tv, no two people play the same way, and there for would most likely not have the same calibration. make sense? i hope that explains some things to you.


 

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