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  1. #581
    Forgive me for not going through all 58 pages, but I have a question regarding how different events do their scoring system. I gather few places hold actual 'competitions' (as opposed to a more open-play setting) but it's what works for our events.

    In the 2 years-or-so of events we've held, we've narrowed it down to 2 distinct formulas, then a subset of 3 slightly-different formulas from there. So four-ish... kind of. I've only recently started to question it's balance and accuracy though, so I figured I'd ask and see how others handle it.

    A) The original, and probably best one, was based on each song's highest possible score (pulled from scorehero generally), the global highest possible score (gght at 3.9mil, last I saw), and a small addition to compensate for band-difficulty. The end result is an individual song multiplier you multiply into the band's score. Perfect in every way, except that it heavily relies on someone posting the 100% all expert full band score for every single song. A year and a half ago, there weren't nearly as many songs so it was fine. Now, not easy to do.

    B) The current one we use is based on the percentage each player gets, the band difficulty, and the player difficulty levels. All the needed information is right there, so no scorehero research across hundreds of songs. The downside is that it's explicitly performance based; it doesn't take into account the score itself, and more importantly, the overdrive multiplier/streaks/points. I'm not happy about that, but in the end, I think it balances itself out. A band that gets an average 98% on a song probably hit all the overdrives very well, would have scored high either way.

    C/D) Both a modification of the second one there. Still doesn't account for overdrive, but C does add the option of individual instrument difficulties, and D changes the order in which things get mathed out (a different of 1600 and 6400 is a big scalar difference!) Both of these really may be a little more/less accurate that B, but they're both incredibly messy when it comes to the actual math.

    Again, I know I'm probably in the minority here with my setup, but this IS what works for us, and that's how people like it. We're just doing some fine-tuning here and there. If anyone wants to know the actual formula itself, I'd be happy to post them.
    Rock Band Nights San Francisco
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  2. #582
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    Here is the judging criteria that is used whenever Death of the Arcade hosts a contest. Here is a sample score card also, so you can get a better idea of how the contests are scored. Hope it helps you out
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  3. #583
    Thanks for the links. While I'm not a fan of the more subjective 'stage presence' scoring, the first part was exactly what I'm looking to get feedback on. Our group is going to re-convene this weekend and see if we can come up with an amalgamated formula.

    The one thing that bothers me about all of these now is that they don't take into account the actual score itself (our original idea did, but it's impossible to do anymore), and the only difference between the score and the percentages is overdrive usage. Ideally I'd like to try and come up with something to account for that, but I'm at a loss.
    Rock Band Nights San Francisco
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  4. #584

    RockBand Barnights log in page

    Hi I Run a karaoke Hosting service and have brought in the RockBand.
    I run 4 separate monitors soon 5 for the keyboard. so every one faces the audience not a Big screen with their backs turned away from the Audience. I'm in a bar now and registered with Rockband bar nights. Got a successful log in. however the web page I enter only allow me to edit my profile. I have no access to what was advertized on the sigh up page.
    Has anyone logged in to there rock band bar nights account recently? What do you see when you are logged in?
    BTY I'm new with forums to if i posted this wong sorry about that

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    Hello Raz. When did you register? It takes a few days for them to set everything up. Once they do they will send you a confirmation email that your profile has been approved. Then you will be able to put events into your calander, upload photos, and download media material for flyers and posters. Your venue and schedule will (eventually) show up in the "Local Tab" feature here on the forums. This is all that was advertised with the program that I recall. Where you looking for something else specific?
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  6. #586
    Ooh, here's a question for you YRD, if I might ask. How are you going to change your scoring for when rock band 3 comes out? Most importantly is that the band difficulty seems to be taken away.
    Rock Band Nights San Francisco
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmpRack View Post
    Ooh, here's a question for you YRD, if I might ask. How are you going to change your scoring for when rock band 3 comes out? Most importantly is that the band difficulty seems to be taken away.
    Havn't got a clue yet. Honestly, we only do contests once every few months. For the most part we just do "free play" (karaoke style) participation at Bar Nights so it's not an immediate concern for us. We'll work it out after we get some "quality time" in on RB3
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    Question Bye, Bye, Bar Nights Program?

    Hello again fellow Bar Night Hosts! It appears that the Bar Night Program as well as well as the "Local Tab" feature has been removed from the new website . I'm not sure this is permenent or just temperary due to the new site. If I find out any info, I'll pass it along.
    Rock Band Nights in Denver, CO
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  9. #589
    Thanks YRDaddy. It's a bit distressing to be a part of the premium membership and suddenly the program's web page is gone. I really hope it comes back, or at least we get a $60 refund for the 3rd Rock Band title we were supposed to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcphantom View Post
    Thanks YRDaddy. It's a bit distressing to be a part of the premium membership and suddenly the program's web page is gone. I really hope it comes back, or at least we get a $60 refund for the 3rd Rock Band title we were supposed to get.
    There was 3 titles? Oh wait, didn't the 3 titles already release (Beatles, Green Day, & RB3)? I'm not 100% sure because I never did sign up for the "premium membership".

    I thought I would link you "Bar Night" hosts to this to . It's about the inconvience of no vocal adjustments while in "all instruments" mode. Hopefully Harmonix can make it a little easier with a patch in the future.
    Rock Band Nights in Denver, CO
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