PS3 Controller Compatibility Routine Patch

[560sdl]

You complainers are unbelievable. Can't you see that having 110 posts (mostly *****ing) in a few hours about a good news patch, not delivered according to YOUR expectations, will only make Harmonix LESS inclined to communicate at all? A response such as "Thanks Sean, we are excited and looking forward to it" will go a lot further than, "Crap, today is over in Germany and I have not seen it yet so you are jerks".

You ***** because you don't know if you are heard or what they are working on and then when they communicate that, you ***** if there is ANY detail missing from a statement or announcement. If I were Harmonix, I know exactly how I would handle the next patch.

It is just a game. Go ahead and flame, cause the world is ending due to this delay and you have been violated and robbed and they put a hold on your credit card and your sisters aunt's red drum pad had a problem and they sent her two wrong style guitars in a box that said it was an improved bass pedal.

This game has huge broad appeal, but this forum is becoming intolerable with posts being made as people refresh every 30 seconds waiting for a patch.

I yes I could avoid the *****ing posts, if people would quit disquising them.

[hmxsean]

So as you may have noticed the patch still isn't up and I apologize. We're trying to find out what the holdup is and I'll get back to you when I know. Or better yet the patch will just go up and everyone will be stoked. Sorry abnout the delay.

[Beelzeboss]

believe me all that matters is that we can play with four people until the extra guitars come out thanks for supporting another company's guitar

[Will-san]

Thanks HMXguys

If this works you works you will have saved Christmas!

[Ryder35]

its good that it sounds like it will be fixed.

However it still does not excuse the fact that at least the gh3 guitar should have worked out of the box. thats not RO faults, that the fault of HMX, if its fixed by this week though, it will be a fairly fast turn around, given that the long weekend was in the middle of this.

Wow, now that shows a huge lack of understanding about software and hardware development.... well done!

[cmp1976]

I'm really anxious to find out if this will make the PS2 Guitar Hero Controllers work with RB.

[Nate Finch]

Thanks Sean! No big deal about the delay, these things happen. The fact that you guys stepped up to the plate and got an update done in two weeks (during one of which was thanksgiving).... that's fantastic.

You've definitely saved Christmas, not to mention New Year's, and made the next two months immeasurably more fun.

You guys rock!

[Everman]

So as you may have noticed the patch still isn't up and I apologize. We're trying to find out what the holdup is and I'll get back to you when I know. Or better yet the patch will just go up and everyone will be stoked. Sorry abnout the delay.

Thanks for the communication. We are all really looking forward to it, and appreciate the work required to get it out to us. Even though we seem a bit on edge from impatience, we really do love you guys!

[SoulScreme]

Wow, now that shows a huge lack of understanding about software and hardware development.... well done!

While I am stoked for the patch, what is your software development experience and what kind of testing have you done?

You see, I'm a programmer by trade. When the Les Paul did not work, I decided to look into why that was. I did a series of tests and this is what I came up with:

The Les Paul controller functions as would any SIXAXIS or other controller. The fret buttons are simply mapped to the normal controller buttons with the strum being up and down. I'm not sure how the whammy works, but I think it's one of the analog sticks. I also do not know how star powers works, but it is likely one of the tilt axises. This functionality can be seen through out of game testing. In the XMB and in non-GH 3 games, all of the buttons on the Les Paul act as expected. The only way for Red Octane to attempt to block Rock Band from using the controller would be to implement a proprietary input method only read by Guitar Hero. Given that it not only works in the XMB, but in other games, that is not the case.

The crux of the problem seems to be in the fact that Rock Band does not allow the use of the SIXAXIS. Since the Les Paul conforms to the SIXAXIS standard, it is recognized by Rock Band as a SIXAXIS controller. Thus, the software believes that it is there to control the vocalist's menu choices and not act as a guitar. Thus, this seems to have been an oversight by Harmonix and not the fault of Red Octane.

Before spouting off on the forums about how other people don't understand software/hardware development you might want to take some time, as I did, to figure out what is really going on. I did this testing to decide what company I should lodge my complaint with. Barring some unknown circumstance, this was an oversight by Harmonix and had very little to do with Red Octane.

[Nate Finch]

I'm really anxious to find out if this will make the PS2 Guitar Hero Controllers work with RB.

I highly doubt it. They're not even USB controllers. So not only would harmonix have to worry about the hardware in the guitars, they'd have to worry about the hardware in the adapters for the guitars. It's just too many points of failure.