Lego Rock Band: Can you export every song, and for how much?

[xXZeroOverrideXx]

Someone please close this forum.

[Wasch_24]

Not a bad response, at least it's more intelligent than others in this thread.

However, using that same logic, if retailers didn't want things stolen, couldn't they just design their stores to be more theif-proof?

Not quite the same analogy really.

If the export is allowed without proof of ownership via a one time code linked to the profile that redeems it and the disc it is associated to then it is not stealing. Stealing would be somehow bypassing the code that was intended to prevent export without ownership.

When HMX employees design the export to work without ownership and then encourage the same export without ownership here on the forums, talking RB1 here, than no one has to right to accuse anyone of stealing anything because it is not theft...period.

Now, I realize this thread was made in the hopes that someone from HMX would see it and maybe answer the question, which is unlikely, but, if they did answer the question and posted that a purchase was not required and that they developed the exposrt key to specifically allow for export without ownership, would you guys then get off your high horses regarding this supposed "theft"? If you say yes, then lay off because they essentially did that for RB1 and yet people still try and degrade individuals who rented/borrowed RB1 and then exported.

[whofan]

Someone please close this forum.

Agreed.

This thread is going nowhere good quickly, is actively supporting piracy, and will not get the answers sought just yet.

It is, therefore, completely useless.

[whofan]

Not quite the same analogy really.

If the export is allowed without proof of ownership via a one time code linked to the profile that redeems it and the disc it is associated to then it is not stealing. Stealing would be somehow bypassing the code that was intended to prevent export without ownership.

When HMX employees design the export to work without ownership and then encourage the same export without ownership here on the forums, talking RB1 here, than no one has to right to accuse anyone of stealing anything because it is not theft...period.

Now, I realize this thread was made in the hopes that someone from HMX would see it and maybe answer the question, which is unlikely, but, if they did answer the question and posted that a purchase was not required and that they developed the exposrt key to specifically allow for export without ownership, would you guys then get off your high horses regarding this supposed "theft"? If you say yes, then lay off because they essentially did that for RB1 and yet people still try and degrade individuals who rented/borrowed RB1 and then exported.

As I said, I don't really have a problem with RB1, because of the situation. But we're not talking RB1 here, we're talking Lego Rock Band.

I don't care about RB1, it was a different animal, and that's why I'm getting more than a little annoyed when people keep saying "HMX supports it!"

[Wasch_24]

Legal 101:

When you rent an item, you do not possess any property rights in that item. Thus you do not possess the right to take anything from it.

Do you also support the pirating of DVDs and CDs?

Shoot, if you are talking DVDs and CDs then, technically speaking, you never own the content. It is explicitly illegal to rip MP3s and MPEG videos from CDs and DVDs, regardless of whether or not you rented them or bought them.

[Wasch_24]

As I said, I don't really have a problem with RB1, because of the situation. But we're not talking RB1 here, we're talking Lego Rock Band.

I don't care about RB1, it was a different animal, and that's why I'm getting more than a little annoyed when people keep saying "HMX supports it!"

But if they allow export of Lego in the same manner as RB1 how is the exportability now somehow able to be seperated from their condoning of it?

If they don't want people to rent n rip then they won't include an export key that allows it, like RB1.

If they do want people to rent n rip then they will include the exact same type of export key as RB1.

Pretty simple really. It's not like their is some sort of technilogical barrier preventing the use of one type of export over the other, it is a concious choice by HMX.

[Ehfahq]

Shoot, if you are talking DVDs and CDs then, technically speaking, you never own the content. It is explicitly illegal to rip MP3s and MPEG videos from CDs and DVDs, regardless of whether or not you rented them or bought them.

What he completely forgets is that you pay for a license for use of the content from the disc in RB2.

The rental place gets their disc back. You pay for the right to play those songs in RB2.

There is no piracy involved. Just peoples over inflated sense of morality.

[masterantonio]

To export 55 out of the 58 Rock Band tracks onto Rock Band 2 it was $4.99. For Lego Rock Band, can you export ALL of the songs onto Rock Band 2? And if you can, how much do you think it will be? If it's cheap and you can export all, I will probably rent it, play it a little, export the songs, then send it back. It's like getting a really really cheap track pack.

I'm sure there is going to be a code so you can only do it once like the track packs. Still a better deal than buying the dlc separately.

[whofan]

Shoot, if you are talking DVDs and CDs then, technically speaking, you never own the content. It is explicitly illegal to rip MP3s and MPEG videos from CDs and DVDs, regardless of whether or not you rented them or bought them.

And it is the same with Video Games too. Even you export, you don't own that content.

So, tell me, why are DVDs and CDs any different?

[murph]

It is explicitly illegal to rip MP3s and MPEG videos from CDs and DVDs, regardless of whether or not you rented them or bought them.

You've been brainwashed by the RIAA. It's perfectly legal under "fair use". If it were illegal, do you really think Apple would include this feature in iTunes?