Rembering 9 11 01

[TheCrimsonSaint]

Educate yourself about Muslims. You're applying an extremist view to the entire religion.

[Banky71]

No, i do not, if that was the case, I'd be telling you "quit whining, 2900 people is less than 0.001% of the world's population". No, I'm not like that, I just truly think it's time to move on, it's not enough of a tragedy to still be treated as it is 8 years later.

there have been plenty worse things happening in the world that don't get any media attention...yet nobody cares becuase 'it didn't happen on american soil.'

well, I'm Canadian, it didn't happen on Canadian soil, so by that logic, why should I care?

also, what america stands for is what muslims hate about it, though I disagree with their actions and views, what kind of person would anyone be if they didn't try to make the world a better place, even if their logic is flawed and mutated....

Just sayin...

Quit telling people how they should feel about something. You were not there. You obviously don't care about the event. Quit trolling.

[tridentgum0]

I knew this thread would go to hell...

[Runa216]

*shrug* I guess nobody is willing to see things from a perspective that's not their own. I'll leave you to your mournings.

On topic, I was priming tobbacco at the time, and told my boss he was full of crap, I didn't believe such a thing would happen, so I went back to work.

[Lawdog1521]

Okay, how's about this? How many people died at Hiroshima? innocent civilians who had NOTHING to do with the war and just wanted to work, SAME AS 9/11!

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are fall backs that revisionist always use to attempt to justify their views…

First, Japan started the war well before our involvement. Japan was directly responsible for the genocide that was taking place in China. In Nanking alone in a six week span the Japanese had raped over 80,000 women. From 1937 to 1945 the Japanese had murdered over 10,000,000 people.

The Japanese military culture would not allow them to surrender despite having all odds stacked against them. A US led invasion would have had causalities estimated at over 1.6 million with over 360,000 dead Americans. The Japanese losses themselves would be even more enormous with the causalities reaching into the millions.(including conscripted old men, women and children.)

At the point of the bombings the Japanese were responsible for the death of more than 250,000 people a month, due to the effects of war and starvation. A prolonged invasion would have meant many more months of this high death ratio.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki both had great military significance. Hiroshima was home to the 5th division and second general army. Nagasaki was a key manufacturing center that supplied the Japanese war machine.

Japan itself had already adopted a policy of total war and were routinely killing civilians. Japanese defense minister Fumio Kyuma in his own words said the use of the bombs could not be helped and were the only reason the war was ended.

So, how can any of that be compared to murdering 3000 people in 30 minutes just because you don’t like the way the US foreign policy in the Middle East?

[moshun]

I was 21... at home on the west coast.. woken up by a phone call from my roomie's mom to turn on the TV. One tower was already hit. Sat there dumbstruck. I realized later that just a week before 9/11, I had came back from visiting my friends and family in NYC and thought what if I had given in to staying another week at the insistence of my family.... Took a picture with my mom at the WTC during my visit too.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

for the record, now I'm just playing devil's advocate, I don't want people thinking I sympathize or support terrorists.

If you don't want people thinking you support terrorists, why would you even post it in the first place? For amusement or just a cry for attention?

[mercury11]

9/11 - Overblown and underwhelming. sure, it sucked at the time, but it's time for america to move on...I'm so sick of hearing about it.

let's try to be a little more mature

[Tank9088]

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are fall backs that revisionist always use to attempt to justify their views…

First, Japan started the war well before our involvement. Japan was directly responsible for the genocide that was taking place in China. In Nanking alone in a six week span the Japanese had raped over 80,000 women. From 1937 to 1945 the Japanese had murdered over 10,000,000 people.

The Japanese military culture would not allow them to surrender despite having all odds stacked against them. A US led invasion would have had causalities estimated at over 1.6 million with over 360,000 dead Americans. The Japanese losses themselves would be even more enormous with the causalities reaching into the millions.(including conscripted old men, women and children.)

At the point of the bombings the Japanese were responsible for the death of more than 250,000 people a month, due to the effects of war and starvation. A prolonged invasion would have meant many more months of this high death ratio.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki both had great military significance. Hiroshima was home to the 5th division and second general army. Nagasaki was a key manufacturing center that supplied the Japanese war machine.

Japan itself had already adopted a policy of total war and were routinely killing civilians. Japanese defense minister Fumio Kyuma in his own words said the use of the bombs could not be helped and were the only reason the war was ended.

So, how can any of that be compared to murdering 3000 people in 30 minutes just because you don’t like the way the US foreign policy in the Middle East?

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Lawdog1521]

*shrug* I guess nobody is willing to see things from a perspective that's not their own. I'll leave you to your mournings.

On topic, I was priming tobbacco at the time, and told my boss he was full of crap, I didn't believe such a thing would happen, so I went back to work.

I don’t understand this argument that “worse” things have happened. It’s like telling the family of a murder victim, “Well, at least they weren’t raped and murdered.” So what? It’s still a horrible tragedy.

Also, to say thousands of Americans die on roadways each year therefore 9/11 deserves no mention makes no sense.

Yes, in a two year span more Americans are killed on our highways than in the entire duration of the Vietnam war. But while each of those tragedies is on personal level, 9/11 effected all Americans. Along every highway, if you travel it enough, you’ll see crosses and flowers commemorating those that died. Family members will do this for years if not decades. So your complaint is that it’s not done on a national level? Therefore 9/11 shouldn’t be either?

Also, as a Canadian, what do you care? I don’t attack Canadian tradition. (Except in jest.)

And on a final note, so you have no sympathy or feelings for whatever reason. Why attack those that do? You used MJ as an example. I agree, I didn’t care for the man either. Yet in all of the threads that popped up after his death I didn’t feel the need to jump in and attack him. Why? I respected the loss others felt even though I didn’t agree with it.