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    what is a STEM?

    Forgive me people for sounding stupid.

    But is an audio stem nothing more than an audio track of each instrument? Such as a lead guitar track, bass track, snare track, bass drum track, etc.?

    Just making sure I understand the lingo here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by braddavisrevue View Post
    Forgive me people for sounding stupid.

    But is an audio stem nothing more than an audio track of each instrument? Such as a lead guitar track, bass track, snare track, bass drum track, etc.?

    Just making sure I understand the lingo here.
    Yes, it is.
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    Yes, but a stem does not necessarily contain only one instrument part. For example, a guitar stem could have rhythm guitar parts as well as lead guitar parts. Also if there are multiple rhythm guitars playing the same part that can all be included in one stem.

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    Stems are a set of audio files that contain the seperate elements of a song, and when combined with no additional processing / volume changes should sound identical to the full mix.
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    Thanks for the answers. My recording experience has been strictly to tape, not too much digital work. But I am familiar with seperate tracks. I produce all my own music and play all of the tracks (instruments). My work has been created using Midisoft Studio 4.0; a combination of midi tracks and audio input of bass, rythym and lead guitar. So I would guess I have experience creating stems of individual parts. Just wanted to take out the mystery of what was being talked about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOwn1 View Post
    Yes, it is.
    If you didn't know this already, you are doomed forever.
    Uhhhh.

    A LOT of bands and representatives I've talked to did NOT know what the term 'stem' referred to at first. I've had to say "I mean the separate instruments" quite a few times.

    I think our friend is going to be just fine.

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    Seems the term 'Master Tracks' is pretty common also...Might help to use that.
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    and I think from what I have been reading about creating RB songs, is that the drums need to be seperated by bass drum, snare and then the other toms, etc. That is so the part can drop out when the player misses the notes during gameplay. I think I've got that down since I usually create my drum parts by doing just that. There is a 4 count stick leadin, and then the bass drum is on a track, the snare is on a track, and the fills are on another track. This is done using mapped midi keys from my keyboard. The trick for me is going to record those parts as audio from the midi playback to create audio stems. It would cool to write an app that could take my midi file and generate the RB gem parts from it.

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    The way to think about stem vs multitrack is to consider how albums are recorded and mastered.

    The band goes into the studio, maybe it's a studio owned by the label or publisher, maybe not, and records their songs. All the data is dumped to tape or disk, every take of every track. Mostly it's recorded dry (without effects) except for reverb from the guitar amps or other effects.

    Then, the studio engineer and the producer pick the best takes, and compile a set of stems to send off to be mastered for the final CD. They pick through all the takes, assemble a vocal track from all the punch in fixes, add effects as needed, etc. There still might be three or four guitar tracks (lead, rhythm1, rhythm 2, solo) and a bunch of drum tracks (snare, kick, overhead, tom1, tom2), but it's been pruned down to the final audio that goes on the CD.

    Now those stems are sent to a Mastering Facility, usually owned and operated by the record label. The stems are mixed and processed for the final CD mix, usually with super expensive matte black audio gear with tubes and the serial numbers filed off. Then the final stereo mix is sent off to a CD duplication plant and CDs are pooped out the other end.

    So of course, these days, the pipeline isn't nearly as clear cut, as all sorts of people are making CDs on their own, in home studios, without mastering. But I suspect most of the big commercial CDs are still made this way.

    So when we call them stems we are usually referring to multitrack audio that is ready for a final mix, as opposed to the raw tracks that are recorded.

    Make sense?

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    Thanks HMXMister_Game, it's all clear now. I'm ready to piece together my first attempt for the RBN. I've got a single song in mind. I recorded this using some crude equipment, and put it on youTube. It's not a great piece of song writing, but it's got some strong guitar, bass and drum lines that I think would work well in RB. It's my tribute to the late Evel Knievel. I wrote this when I was 16 in 1974. I wanted to create something with a Chuck Berry kind of feel, and an Elvishness to it too. I authored a midi arrangement and made a video in 2006 on youTube and it has had nearly 400,000 views. Anyone care to listen, here it is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7IUKyDkDig

    Keep in mind, the audio/video was simply captured using a video camera. So it's not going have the sound quality that it will in the final mix for RB.
    Last edited by braddavisrevue; 10-29-2009 at 10:22 AM.


 

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