Question about overdrive...

[justjaek]

Before I do too much trial and error here, does anyone know if there's a way to affect how quickly the activated overdrive decays? I'm working with a song with a pretty fast tempo and a 6/8 feel (95bpm). Is the overdrive decay purely a function of tempo? If I wanted activated overdrive to last longer, would I be better/worse charting the song as a 3/4 @ 190bpm, or no difference? The song auditions great, but eats up a half-bar of overdrive in about 3-4 measures, which is about 6-8 seconds. I know there are other RB songs that use overdrive about this fast, but it'd be nice to be able to balance it out a little bit more if there's a way to do it. Thanks.

[trg007]

It's based on tempo. Although if your song is really 96BPM, that should result in a slower drain, not faster. Higher tempo = faster OD drain, so 190BPM is not the way to go. As long as you place enough Overdrive so that the song can be gold starred (and even that isn't technically a requirement) then it's OK if it drains fast.

[HMXAlakaiser]

It's based on tempo. Although if your song is really 96BPM, that should result in a slower drain, not faster. Higher tempo = faster OD drain, so 190BPM is not the way to go. As long as you place enough Overdrive so that the song can be gold starred (and even that isn't technically a requirement) then it's OK if it drains fast.

I hate to correct you (especially you, because you're awesome), but this isn't the case. The OD drain is actually tied to the BEAT track, not to the tempo track. If OD is draining too fast or too slow, this problem can be mitigated with pulling some trickery with the BEAT track.

edit: For what it's worth, I didn't realize this myself until a few months ago when it was explained to me.

[socrstopr]

I hate to correct you (especially you, because you're awesome), but this isn't the case. The OD drain is actually tied to the BEAT track, not to the tempo track. If OD is draining too fast or too slow, this problem can be mitigated with pulling some trickery with the BEAT track.

edit: For what it's worth, I didn't realize this myself until a few months ago when it was explained to me.

I may also be wrong, but I do believe I was told the BEAT track plays into the character animations speeds as well. I know there is a setting in Magma for that, making this seem weird, but perhaps they control different aspects of the animations (and if so be careful with what you adjust). Either that or I'm way of course :P

[HMXAlakaiser]

This is correct - the BEAT track also ties into character animations. If they're bobbing around too fast or too slow, and the Magma settings aren't helping enough, playing with that track can solve the issues sometimes.

[trg007]

I hate to correct you (especially you, because you're awesome), but this isn't the case. The OD drain is actually tied to the BEAT track, not to the tempo track. If OD is draining too fast or too slow, this problem can be mitigated with pulling some trickery with the BEAT track.

edit: For what it's worth, I didn't realize this myself until a few months ago when it was explained to me.

I thought that might have something to do with it but I wasn't sure. I guess that explains why he is getting fast OD drain at 96bpm when all the songs I've worked on thus far with similar tempos have slow drain.

[DavyinaToga]

I hate to correct you (especially you, because you're awesome), but this isn't the case. The OD drain is actually tied to the BEAT track, not to the tempo track. If OD is draining too fast or too slow, this problem can be mitigated with pulling some trickery with the BEAT track.

edit: For what it's worth, I didn't realize this myself until a few months ago when it was explained to me.

What's funny is, frommy observations, that even though the rate of OD consumption is controlled by the BEAT track, the rate of OD increase from the whammy bar is tied to BPM.

[justjaek]

It's based on tempo. Although if your song is really 96BPM, that should result in a slower drain, not faster. Higher tempo = faster OD drain, so 190BPM is not the way to go. As long as you place enough Overdrive so that the song can be gold starred (and even that isn't technically a requirement) then it's OK if it drains fast.

Does audition let you 'gold star' stuff? I don't see why it wouldn't, but I haven't been able to get it, even though I'm using overdrive as good as I know how (I'm sure there's a better way) and hitting all the notes. Tried all difficulties as well. I'm at the point where I don't really want to put any more overdrive phrases in the parts. Should I put enough in to get there, or can I leave it as-is if the gameplay is good?

I tried doing a half-time feel with the beat track, but that didn't work out so I ended up keeping things at my original 6/8 beat. Thanks for the suggestions though.

[trg007]

Does audition let you 'gold star' stuff? I don't see why it wouldn't, but I haven't been able to get it, even though I'm using overdrive as good as I know how (I'm sure there's a better way) and hitting all the notes. Tried all difficulties as well. I'm at the point where I don't really want to put any more overdrive phrases in the parts. Should I put enough in to get there, or can I leave it as-is if the gameplay is good?

I tried doing a half-time feel with the beat track, but that didn't work out so I ended up keeping things at my original 6/8 beat. Thanks for the suggestions though.

Yep, you can gold star, assuming you are playing/autoplaying on Expert (if multiple instruments are playing, all need to be on Expert).

[EvileOL]

can you use overdrive on the guitar during a guitar solo? I presume not but wanted to check