Chart Discussion Thread

[NoahTheDuke]

As the title suggests, this thread is for those of us who aren't in the private beta, but would still like feedback on their work, both for publishing and recreational purposes.

So, to start out, I'm currently charting A Rite Of Passage by Dream Theater for fun and experience. It's gone well, and I've fully charted all four Expert tracks. I'm now moving to Hard, and it's becoming difficult to determine what should and should not be left in. I've got a bunch of Expert and Hard charts handy that I've been referencing all over the place, but I'm still not sure. To find out if it's too much or too little, I've attached a screencap from Reaper of my (above) Expert and (below) Hard bass charts right at the first chorus.

Where the X chart has the R-BOB part, I had originally left it as R-BO on H, but after thinking about it, that seems too hard; but if left out, it feels more Medium than Hard. I don't know. Any help?

Anyone else have questions on the charts they're making?

Noah

[JesusSilencio]

I think charting the BOB part is fine just charting it to a blue note on hard, but I would make it a sustain personally.

However, I think you thinned out the other notes just a bit too much. I think that if you kept the rest of the notes during that section, just charting the BOB as blue, that would be an acceptable hard chart. Just my opinion though, I haven't really looked at hard charts in a while.

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I was charting one of my bands songs, and during the intro to this song (the one that starts with a "P") I wasn't really sure how to chart hi-hat part. I'm playing flam accents (flam every 3 hits), but since the hi-hat is sorta half open, most people probably wouldn't even realize it. Would it make more sense to chart it as straight yellows, or should I chart it like this:

OOOO r
OOOO r/L
OOOO l
OOOO l/R
OOOO l
OOOO r
OOOO r/L
OOOO r
OOOO l
OOOO l/R
OOOO l
OOOO r
OOOO r/L
OOOO r
OOOO l
OOOO l/R
caps

[S1ckH4nds]

JesusSilencio, admittedly I'm not the most experienced drummer, but I can't think of any songs where flams on hi-hats have been charted to two pads. Perhaps it would make more sense, if there's a distinct difference in the sound, to author those flams to blue only instead of B+Y, or if not (as you recommend) keep it straight yellows.

Of course, if I've missed some example where HMX has actually charted it the way you indicate, please feel free to disregard this suggestion entirely.

[JesusSilencio]

JesusSilencio, admittedly I'm not the most experienced drummer, but I can't think of any songs where flams on hi-hats have been charted to two pads. Perhaps it would make more sense, if there's a distinct difference in the sound, to author those flams to blue only instead of B+Y, or if not (as you recommend) keep it straight yellows.

Of course, if I've missed some example where HMX has actually charted it the way you indicate, please feel free to disregard this suggestion entirely.

To be honest, I can't think of a single song in Rock Band that has flams on the hi-hat period, but typically HMX charts flams, regardless of what they're on, to 2 pads. Although, they typically would just chart all the flams as blue+yellow, rather than making it switch between blue and red (I did that to preserve sticking).

The more I think about it though, the more I think just charting it all to yellow makes more sense. It's not really supposed to be a difficult part, and for someone that doesn't know how to play flam accents, it's a little awkward. Plus, as I said, 99% of people probably wouldn't even notice they're flams.

[NoahTheDuke]

You could always chart it as a double yellow hit. We've had plenty of those. I think that'd work rather well.

Noah

[JesusSilencio]

You could always chart it as a double yellow hit. We've had plenty of those. I think that'd work rather well.

Noah

As much as I wish flams could be charted like that, that's not how HMX charts them, mainly because (I believe) the RB1 kit isn't sensitive enough to detect two hits that close together.

Thanks for making this thread by the way. I was going to make something similar, but you beat me to it.

[NoahTheDuke]

You're welcome! I don't know much about flams, so I'm out of my depth. It sounds like you've got an answer, so woo!

Noah

[Swivle]

You guys are talking about hitting two hands on the hi-hat at the same time, right? Check out The Number of the Beast drum chart. There's another Iron Maiden song where they chart hi-hat flams, if that's what you'd call them. I think it's The Clairvoyant.

[JesusSilencio]

You guys are talking about hitting two hands on the hi-hat at the same time, right? Check out The Number of the Beast drum chart. There's another Iron Maiden song where they chart hi-hat flams, if that's what you'd call them. I think it's The Clairvoyant.

Ah, you're right (that's what I get for not getting the entire Maiden pack I guess). Interestingly enough, HMX charted the rest of the hi-hat to blue, which I guess would make sense, so that you could keep time with the right hand.

So then I guess my question would be: Should I chart it like HMX charted it in Claivoyant/NotB, or should I chart it like I said before? On the one hand, following HMX example is typically the best bet, but charting it all on blue and blue+yellow wouldn't allow it to be played the way I naturally play it (unless you cross over I guess).

(Also, just to clarify real quick, a flam is where two stick hit the drum at almost the same, but one is slightly earlier and, typically, weaker).

[NoahTheDuke]

The way you originally charted it up thread might work. Try it out in Audition, see if it feels right. For reference, Brainpower features many crosses at fast speeds and doesn't suffer as a fun chart at all from it.

Noah