Metalcharter presents...

[NoThru22]

Your arguments are valid but pricing yourself out of sales is not a smart thing to do. We're only giving you recommendations here, but there will probably (most definitely) be hundreds of tracks on day one and I am sure that there will be plenty of competing metal tracks for $1.

[destruction3402]

Your arguments are valid but pricing yourself out of sales is not a smart thing to do. We're only giving you recommendations here, but there will probably (most definitely) be hundreds of tracks on day one and I am sure that there will be plenty of competing metal tracks for $1.

As for black metal, there is not even one song announced except for those.
I'll buy it regardless of the price.

[G_tarRoCK3R]

Hey guys

I appreciate the feedback on the pricing issue - I need to give it some serious thought I guess - the major reason that I'm thinking more along the lines of $2.00 is just the amount of work which goes into charting songs of this genre, versus the generally less technically complex genres, as well as the length of these songs in general.

The song I am working on at the moment is 7 minutes long, and just the tempo map alone took me a few hours to complete based on time signature shifts and radical tempo changes - the instruments are pretty busy, and it involves a lot of time and effort to make this stuff work.

I know that this might seem somewhat elitist, but I'm really gearing my charts towards the metal enthusiast, and the Rock Band enthusiast - I'm not anticipating many casual sales, since the genres I chart generally don't lend themselves to casual fans anyhow - basically, if you like black metal, you know it, and if you don't know it, you more than likely don't like it

I think I might change my pricing structure to one based on length - maybe 7 minutes and above goes for $2, and below that is $1

More announcements coming soon I hope

Also, thanks for the add to the charters thread - much appreciated

Again I'll state this......$1 is the way to go on RBN for unknown artists. There are going to be HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS of songs and most all are going to be $1. If you put them at $2 they will sit unsold. If you feel a few hours is a waste how will you feel if your songs don't even sell well at all? Most bands won't be making any profits using RBN. Its more of an exposure kinda thing. Sure the songs look good but how many people are REALLY going to say, HEY that sounds awesome! I'll think I'll try it out. There are much more casual folks then will be hardcore players thats a guaranteed.

Listen, I'm just trying to talk some sense into you don't take it personally. It would be better to sell more songs then less at a higher price. You'll make more profit and more sales. More people to branch out and tell others. These songs will sit amongst alot of other metal songs all being $1.

Question: Are you allowed to change the price? If so then try $2 to start and lower it if you aren't getting the sales you expected.

I feel that all songs should be $2, the artists deserve it. But from an economic stand point $2 won't do well. Look at the iphone? What sells better? The lower priced apps. If you are in this to make money, you are in the wrong place seriously.

[Reygnier]

You got a good point Metalcharter. I'm buying your song regardless of the price (although a $3 is a no-no XD).

I'm a hardcore gamer and I love this type of music, so it's a no-brainer for me.

Hope your songs sell well, 2010 and RBN can't come soon enough.

[NoThru22]

I think you can only change your price once each quarter, but I may be wrong about that.

[Mr. Tate]

Again I'll state this......$1 is the way to go on RBN for unknown artists. There are going to be HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS of songs and most all are going to be $1. If you put them at $2 they will sit unsold.

Have you ever bought something at a higher price because you felt the higher price was a sign of good quality?

Before you laid this out so well I was agreeing with you 100%: 1 dollar songs or nothing. Besides, unknown artist for unknown artist, if some lesser known artist is coming out on the regular RB store it's gonna be picked 9 times out of 10 over an RBN artist, if the price is the same.

However, once you wrote that, I realized that the different price could actually catch the customer's eyes and make them think: "Mmm, 2 dollars instead of 1? Let's see what the fuss is all about". I'm not saying it's definitely gonna be like that, but it's something to ponder upon.

[G_tarRoCK3R]

However, once you wrote that, I realized that the different price could actually catch the customer's eyes and make them think: "Mmm, 2 dollars instead of 1? Let's see what the fuss is all about". I'm not saying it's definitely gonna be like that, but it's something to ponder upon.

Interesting......my point I'm REALLY trying to make is that song length should not = higher price. and the fact that most songs 99% of the songs will be $1, why make your double the price from your competitors? Its like you see gas $2.00, or $1.00 down the street. Where you going to go?

[Mr. Tate]

Interesting......my point I'm REALLY trying to make is that song length should not = higher price. and the fact that most songs 99% of the songs will be $1, why make your double the price from your competitors? Its like you see gas $2.00, or $1.00 down the street. Where you going to go?

I agree on length, although RBN is a comparatively free market, so if anyone wants to price songs based on lenght they are free to do so. I don't think length is necessarily the issue, however complexity could be.

With that said, it's not gas. These are extremely different products, they are song. And maybe (again, I'm not saying this is how it's gonna be or how I think it should, I'm just making an analysis) if you see 1 song with a different price tag you may select just that for the same reason you sometimes choose the high-end product when you go to the mall. I could really see bands using the 3 dollar price tag just like a few brands make it a point of being pricer and thus supposedly more sofisticated.

There's also the matter of how many copies of the song you expect to sell. You sell at 1 dollar price point and sell n. Double the price and you only need to sell n/2. Now, is the "stand out" price enough "quirky" to get you more copies than the 1 dollar price tag? I don't know, but I think it needs some pondering, as I said.

[TragicEnd666]

Interesting......my point I'm REALLY trying to make is that song length should not = higher price. and the fact that most songs 99% of the songs will be $1, why make your double the price from your competitors? Its like you see gas $2.00, or $1.00 down the street. Where you going to go?

thats a weak analogy. the $2 gas is the same as the $1 gas. this $2 song will NOT be the same as the $1 songs....just sayin

[ThatAuthoringGroup]

thats a weak analogy. the $2 gas is the same as the $1 gas. this $2 song will NOT be the same as the $1 songs....just sayin

Why wouldn't it be?

I'm not denying that this song sounds awesome, but there's at least ten other just as awesome metal songs up on RBN now, and if they price out at $1, then how will they not be the same?