Should exported LRB songs appear as LRB or DLC?

[T-Hybrid]

I think all of your issues were addressed in my post with detail.

No, they weren't.

I agree with you, to an extent. The sorting system we have now is not broken, and there is no reason HMX HAS to fix it. However, what the poll asks is if you would LIKE this to happen, not whether HMX should be forced to change the sorting system.

Actually "Should" is exactly what it's asking...both in the title and poll.

Should exported LRB songs appear as LRB or DLC?

And the two poll options (no it shouldn't/yes it should) are the exact reason this thread went down the path it did.

Furthermore, the OP himself has twice stated this this "should" (as well as "has to") be fixed. And at least once has referred to it as a bug.

Mismatching album titles and art is also something that doesn't NEED to be fixed to enjoy the game, yet you're in favor of that. I don't see very much difference. Those would actually be entirely cosmetic, rather than something that may make sorting through songs in the game (and some have over 1000 at this point, so it can sometimes be a struggle) that much easier.

Ah, but that's where you are mistaken.

Due to the mismatching album titles, the three songs from Light from Above by Black Tide do not generate a new Album Challenge as they should.

Due to incorrect configurations, "Foo Fighters Pack 02 Challenge" includes a song from Kaiser Chiefs.

Due to an unknown issue, "Punk Pack 01" does not recieve a Tour Challenge.

Due to an unknown issue, "Every Little Thing She Does is Magic" does not show up in LEGO's Story Mode song list. (It does appear in Quickplay)

For some reason, the Rock Band website has songs listed as FF/SR that are the opposite in the actual game store, leading to confusion when people don't see certain songs in LEGO that they have bought but see others they weren't expecting.

Because of differences in how "Rock and Roll Star" and "Hysteria" were released in Europe, both of these songs cause UK copies of LEGO Rock Band to freeze when they pop up in random setlists. Meaning some people are unable to complete the game...or can only do so if they manage to go through random setlists without hitting either of these songs.

These are actual bugs as these are things actually leading to songs not working correctly.

The 45 songs exported from LEGO have no such issues, break into artist/album just fine, and have no issues (at this time) when playing. There's just a subset of users annoyed that they don't sort seperately by location. That is the definition of a cosmetic issue.

[Mex]

We weren't talking about you, we were talking about the OP. You got on my butt for calling it a "game-breaker", to which I responded the OP is calling it a "bug".

Now somehow you're turning it back on you? Why? Because I was able to support my statement and you want to try and deflect that with further confusion?


Like any software project, everything that gets worked on has priority. This "bug" (which isn't) will likely have low priority since nothing is actual malfunctioning. Meanwhile missing features in the PS3 (such as "T3h Patch"), actual issues with the sorting ("Spiders from/From Mars" & "Light from/From Above") should have priority since those are actually things that don't work. And are preventing the game from working as it should.

See where I'm going with this?

Honestly I don't even think it's worth trying to wrap my head around what you're saying anymore. You've put words in other peoples mouths (game-breaker) to support your argument and then claim it's everyone elses fault that this thread has "gone the way it has". You just keep pointing fingers.

Anyway, for the umpteenth time, you don't care about this suggested improvement to the game. Others do care for it. I'm going to leave it at that.

[T-Hybrid]

Honestly I don't even think it's worth trying to wrap my head around what you're saying anymore.

Quit hiding behind "you aren't making any sense". The only reason things are getting confusing is because you are intentionally redirecting the discussion each time I say something.

First you challenged that the OP never said a specific phrase, then when I pointed out the phrase he did use, you changed the subject to suddenly be "you" never said it.

Give it up, no one cares but you.

It's funny you would say this after "debating" with me for however many pages it is. Obviously you have interest in things I'm saying since you continually ask for clarity and request responses.

However, I will also state that album challenges do not make the game unplayable, a song not showing up in story mode does not make it unplayable, the website does not make it unplayable.

A software bug is when something is not functioning as documented. That's not semantics, that's the defintion of a software bug. HMX on a number of occasions has laid out how the Challenges are generated: Three or more songs make an album, three or more remaining songs make an artist challenge. Mixed artist packs are always generated. The Lights from Above issue means the album generation is not functioning correctly, and the Foo Fighters Pack means that something in the song "I Predict a Riot" is not functioning properly.

Likewise, songs are documented as being playable in "all modes" unless noted. These notes to date have only been in reference to DLC that doesn't get through the approved filter for LEGO (which currently either has an error in the documentation or an error in the filter itself), and any DLC missing one or more instruments not being playable when that instrument is present.

But the missing song in the LEGO songlist obviously clears the filter, and it has no missing parts. Furthermore, it is the first song to literally "vanish" from the song list as opposed to simply being greyed out. Something is not behaving correctly, hence the bug.

[T-Hybrid]

The unplayable thing has nothing to do with semantics, and I'm not sure where you got that from at all. It may be a "bug" but like I said, does not make the game unplayable. Also, how would something on the website make the game unplayable? I'm talking unplayable, as in, you can't play the game because of it.

The Lights from Above challenge is unplayble due to the mismatch in albums.

"Every Little Thing She Does is Magic" is unplayable in storymode (outside the one gig that includes it) since it is not included in the song list and thus can't be added when building setlists. I haven't seen it pop up in Surprise Setlists, but I also have over 450 songs so that could just be the odds.

And due to the inconsistencies between the website and actual music store...certain songs appear unplayable when according to Rock Band.com they should be available for LEGO.

So in that case either the songs are unplayable due to a bug in the filter...or the songs shouldn't be playable, but the user still has an issue as the official website doesn't have accurate information.

But from the view of a software developer, those types of bugs are far more of an issue since they are actually things that should've been caught during development/testing. It's also those types of issues stand out to me as actual problems and why I don't really mind the issue in this thread.

[Mex]

Quit hiding behind "you aren't making any sense". The only reason things are getting confusing is because you are intentionally redirecting the discussion each time I say something.

I'm not intentionally redirecting the discussion. What are you talking about?

First you challenged that the OP never said a specific phrase

Right because he didnt...

then when I pointed out the phrase he did use, you changed the subject to suddenly be "you" never said it.

No I pointed out that the term "bug" does not necessarily mean it's game-breaking.

And then I made a bunch of other points that you ignored, until you had your opportunity to come back with the old "It's funny that we can't disagree with anyone around here anymore", which has gotten very old btw.

And THEN you went on about game-breaking this and game-breaking that so I pointed out that I never said it was game breaking.

In fact I don't think anyone has said that in this thread.

[SenseiLeRoof]

I don't care how they get sorted until they become available individually. Right now, I'm not sure the good songs are worth the risk of having to suffer through Spin Doctors.

[guitarjacked]

Right now, I'm not sure the 20-some good songs are worth the risk of having to suffer through Bryan Adams.

Boo.

[SenseiLeRoof]

Boo.

Boo you. You underestimate the suckiness of Bryan Adams.

[Ehfahq]

Boo you. You underestimate the suckiness of Bryan Adams.

Show some respect. Everything Bryan Adams did, he did it for you.

[guitarjacked]

Boo you. You underestimate the suckiness of Bryan Adams.

I always he thought he sucked too. I really hated "Everything I Do". My wife likes him quite a lot and I bought her tickets to see him a couple of years ago. I went along not really expecting to enjoy myself at all and was pleasently surprised. Summer of '69 is a classic 80s rock song. Therefore you overestimate his suckiness. He sucks no more than any band you or anyone else likes. Your first post is really quite pointless as it has nothing to do with the thread discussion, which in itself has become quite pointless to be honest looking at most of the posts in this thread, so hey, lets post more pointless digs at bands we don't like that are in LRB.