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  1. #51
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    This is the most Bulls**t list I have ever seen.

    I mean Joan Jett, Jack White, Buddy Holly, and John Fogerty.

    I like most of those people but they are just not great guitarist. Maybe good song writers but not Top 100 material guitarist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NX013 View Post
    Whats stupid about this list is that the "Greatest guitarist" can mean a lot of things. Greatest shredder, chord player, lead guitarist, rythm, innovative, songwriter, well-known, etc. IMO, Brian May should be wayyy higher up, he had the most incredible tone and built his guitar, so should randy rhoads, tony iommi, blackmore, Fripp, heck where the hell is Hackett, and Howe, two of the most innovative guitarists of all time, not just in prog, but in rock in general
    I forgot about the Red Special! haha yea that should move Brian May a couple spots up for making his own guitar at 13!

  3. #53

    Cool

    i do think that dimebag shoule be on there and get rid of tool. that just bull$yt. and how is jimi hendrix first. so what if hes left handed. so am i and i play pretty damn well. i think that hives should be on there aswell. jimi should be like 50 and the top should be allen collins from lynryd skynrd. he was awesome.




    ~~~~~Outlaw McGraw

  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinautry View Post
    jimi hendrix is not the greatest at all he's ok but not the best he's wayyy overrated

    eric clapton is god of the guitar
    I saw them both many times, and man you are off base.

    Let me just put it to you this way -- how many truly great guitarists have you seen who feature covers of Hendrix tunes and solos, etc. in their acts? I can name four right off the top of my head -- Stevie Ray Vaughan, Eric Johnson, Steve Vai, and Robben Ford.

    How many do the same for Clapton? Uh, none that I've ever seen or heard in 40+ years of concert going and record buying.

    The reason -- Hendrix is a challenge. Great guitarists want to see how they measure up. Clapton once had gorgeous tone, fluid technique and a lovely vibrato (his tone has never been as good since Cream in my opinion). But -- there's no "how did he do that" factor there.
    Last edited by OldFogey; 01-22-2008 at 11:48 AM.

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    What does "greatest" mean?

    I think the problem is really with the word. And the fact that whoever put the list together for Rolling Stone was not consistent in how they applied it. A lot of the folks on the list are there because they were considered ground-breakers, or influential, or the like. The list is pretty up-front about not being about who is the "best."

    It's still pretty messed up because they are not consistent about this, but at least give them some credit for knowing they were not really presenting "the best."

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    One they got right -- Clarence White

    I think there is one thing that's pretty impressive about this list -- they included Clarence White (#41).

    Clarence was a bluegrass legend at the time he joined the Byrds. Check out his recordings with the Kentucky Colonels albums. As a genre, and excepting classical music because there is no improvisation, bluegrass is only second to jazz in the level of technical proficiency among instrumentalists.

    Clarence learned to play some mean rock guitar with the Byrds. He didn't get many extended solos in the song structures the Byrds used, so alot of his better playing is actually in little fills.

    He also invented the Telecaster with a device in the back that bends the b-string like on a pedal steel guitar. That gave him some great effects.

    First song has him using the b-string bend on the intro. But be sure to catch his work on Wheels of Fire the second song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m37-2eB-wj8
    Last edited by OldFogey; 01-21-2008 at 10:04 PM. Reason: Added you tube url

  7. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockbandfan23467 View Post
    The Digital Dream Door list is better, as Cobain, White, and Ramone are only Honnorable Mentions.

    1. Jimi Hendrix* - Jimi Hendrix Experience
    2. Eric Clapton - Yardbirds, Cream, Derek & The Dominos, Solo
    3. Jimmy Page - Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, The Firm
    4. Jeff Beck - Yardbirds, Jeff Beck Group, Solo
    5. Eddie Van Halen - Van Halen
    6. Stevie Ray Vaughan* - Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble
    7. Joe Satriani - Solo
    8. Ritchie Blackmore - Deep Purple, Rainbow, Blackmores Night
    9. Steve Vai - David Lee Roth, Whitesnake, Solo
    10. David Gilmour - Pink Floyd, Solo
    11. John Petrucci - Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment
    12. Randy Rhoads* - Quiet Riot, Ozzy
    13. Allan Holdsworth - Solo
    14. Paul Gilbert - Mr. Big, Racer X, Solo
    15. Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force, Solo
    16. Phil Keaggy - Glass Harp, Solo
    17. Jason Becker - Cacophony, David Lee Roth Band, Solo
    18. John Mclaughlin- Mahavishnu Orchestra
    19. Duane Allman* - Allman Brothers Band, Derek & the Dominos
    20. Chuck Berry - Solo
    21. Eric Johnson - Solo
    22. Steve Howe - Yes, Solo
    23. Neal Schon - Santana, Journey, Solo
    24. Brian May - Queen
    25. Gary Moore - Thin Lizzy, Colosseum II, Skid Row, Solo
    26. Bo Diddley - Solo
    27. Steve Morse - Deep Purple, Dixie Dregs, Steve Morse Band, Solo
    28. Carlos Santana - Santana
    29. Tony Iommi - Black Sabbath
    30. Buckethead - Solo, Praxis, Thanatopsis, The Deli Creeps, Cornbugs, GNR
    31. Mark Knopfler - Dire Straits, Solo
    32. Marty Friedman - Cacophony, Megadeth, Solo
    33. Nuno Bettencourt - Extreme, Mourning Widows
    34. Shawn Lane* - Black Oak Arkansas, Willy, Solo
    35. Kirk Hammett - Metallica
    36. Uli Jon Roth - Scorpions, Solo
    37. Terry Kath* - Chicago Transit Authority
    38. Alex Lifeson - Rush
    39. Frank Zappa* - Mothers of Invention, Solo
    40. Rory Gallagher* - Solo
    41. Dimebag Darrell* - Pantera
    42. Peter Green - Fleetwood Mac, Solo
    43. Robin Trower - Procal Harum, Solo
    44. Slash - Guns N' Roses, Slash's Snakepit, Velvet Revolver
    45. Mick Taylor - John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Rolling Stones
    46. Robert Fripp - King Crimson
    47. Tom Morello - Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave
    48. Michael Schenker - Scorpions, UFO, MSG, Contraband
    49. Ry Cooder - Solo
    50. Angus Young - AC/DC
    51. Keith Richards - Rolling Stones, Solo
    52. Michael Angelo Batio - Nitro, Solo
    53. John Squire - Stone Roses
    54. Pete Townshend - The Who
    55. Steve Hackett - Genisis
    56. Zakk Wylde - Ozzy Osbourne, Black Label Society
    57. George Harrison* - Beatles, Traveling Wilberys, Solo
    58. Alvin Lee - Ten Years After
    59. Dave Davies - Kinks
    60. Jerry Cantrell - Alice In Chains, Solo
    61. Steve Stevens - Billy Idol
    62. Johnny Winter - Solo
    63. Dickie Betts - Allman Brothers Band, Dickey Betts & Great Southern
    64. John Cipollina* - Quicksilver Messenger Service
    65. Kenny Wayne Shepherd - Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band
    66. Steve Cropper - Booker T. & MG's/Stax sessions
    67. Adrian Belew - King Crimson
    68. Joe Bonamassa - Solo
    69. Steve Lukather - Toto, Solo
    70. Jerry Garcia* - Grateful Dead
    71. Joe Perry - Aerosmith
    72. Prince - Prince & The Revolution
    73. Kim Mitchell - Max Webster, Solo
    74. Adrian Smith - Iron Maiden
    75. Dave Murray - Iron Maiden
    76. Neil Young - Buffalo Springfield, CSNY, Solo
    77. Billy Gibbons - ZZ Top
    78. Tony MacAlpine - Solo
    79. Mike McCready - Pearl Jam
    80. Adam Jones - Tool
    81. Gary Hoey - Solo
    82. Leslie West - Mountain, Solo
    83. Peter Frampton - Humble Pie, Frampton's Camel, Solo
    84. Dick Dale - Del-Tones
    85. Vito Bratta - White Lion
    86. Mickey "Guitar" Baker - 50's sessions/ Mickey & Sylvia
    87. John Frusciante - Red Hot Chili Peppers
    88. Ronnie Montrose - Montrose, Edgar Winter Group
    89. Mick Ronson* - David Bowie, Solo
    90. Roy Buchanan* - Solo
    91. Warren Haynes - Allman Brothers Band, Gov't Mule
    92. Vinnie Moore - Alice Cooper, Solo
    93. Robbie Krieger - Doors, Solo
    94. Chris DeGarmo - Queensryche
    95. Jake E. Lee - RATT, Cutting Crew, Ozzy, Badlands, Solo
    96. Glen Tipton - Judas Priest
    97. Joe Walsh - James Gang, Eagles, Solo
    98. K.K. Downing - Judas Priest
    99. Eddie Hazel* - Funkadelic
    100. Alex Skolnick - Testament

    Note that this is of Rock only. they have an all-genre one too.

    This list is good. Rolling Stone's is not.

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    Every list has problems

    Quote Originally Posted by fracguru View Post
    This list is good. Rolling Stone's is not.
    On the whole, I like this list better, but --

    if it's a rock list, then what's John McLaughlin doing on it? He never played on a rock album. If you open the door to him, then where's DiMeola? Metheny? Schofield? Stern? Frisell? Rosenwinkel?

    And -- they miss Clarence White (my other post). I give huge props to Rolling Stone's list for catching that one. I have seen almost all of these great guitarists play, and Clarence could easily play with all of them.

    Bottom line -- lists are fun. There's no way everyone will agree, so there's room for lots of argument (this thread is proof). Net Result - they sell magazines and they get people to watch TV shows. For that reason alone, I'm sure RS is very happy about their list. They may even have designed it to be as provocative as possible just for that reason.

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    Another one they got right -- James Burton

    I see a lot of focus in this discussion and other lists on more recent players, but let's not forget that some of the players from Rock's early days could flat out play. At least Rolling Stone got that right. Love to see Scotty Moore on there, for example.

    I'll single one out -- James Burton. Played for Rick Nelson originally, then Elvis in the 70's. Here's a segment from a learning video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XCWYTP9siQ

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