Great deal for someone who wants to put their musci on RBN!!

[thjimmy]

All these walls of texts and whatnot is a bit excessive for something that can be solved in one sentence.

That is not a great deal because there are already more profitable options out there, with already proven quality charters, and virtually no possibility of a loss.

Unless the band sells more songs to make the non-profit-sharing option more profitable. The walls of text contain some valid arguments.

[Markleford]

The only example of their charting so far is some song called Even Rats by some no name band called The Slip though.

Yeah, charting no name bands doesn't mean anything.

Once an authoring group charts for a major act, *then* they can be perceived as legitimate.

- m

[Ultrace]

Well for the record TuneCore doesn't chart the songs, they are contracted out to TheAuthorityInc.

Not sure I follow this. Are you saying that TuneCore is just a sort of administrative group? If so, that's fairly unwise -- RBN is not likely to be all that profitable of a venture early on (which most people agree with); the room for administrative overhead would seem pretty small.

The only example of their charting so far is some song called Even Rats by some no name band called The Slip though.

While it's true that the Slip is pretty unknown, good money says that Even Rats will be a big seller. Anyone who played the original GH and checked out its awesome assortment of bonus songs will remember this. It was, in my opinion, the best indie song on either of the Harmonix-developed GH games and has been long awaited by many folks.

[toymachineSH]

nobody caught my obvious sarcasm?

[CCDaDon]

I caught it... The "unknown band" part was pretty obvious...

[joelman]

Read all those posts and thought I would throw my 2 cents in here.

I can definitely see why some people would think $2500 for a song is high. Not being in a band ever, I wouldn't know for sure, but I would assume that for an "indie" band this would be a lot of money to come up with. And for what most likely would be not a very good return at all. As was stated by a few posters here, most songs don't sell that many copies at all. But, they might have that money and decide that the exposure and the possible returns are worth it for them.

But, let's look at some other types of bands. Your a band with a label and they think this RBN sounds like a great idea! They want to put some of their artists in Rock Band, so they research how to do it. They say, "Hmm, it takes a good amount of work to put a song into rock band. But there are professional groups that do it for a fee." Well, instead of hiring people to do a number of songs for RBN, they decide to outsource this to a business that does this all the time. To me then, $2500 sounds like a very reasonable rate, in fact, might be on the low side.

Consider the amount of work that goes into making these tracks. Let's assume someone makes $25/hr doing this as their livelihood. This is a very reasonable rate to charge someone for a high-quality service.

Also, I think people are assuming that the current DLC selling rates will stay like they are now. I don't think this is true. Rock Band is getting more and more popular. Not only in homes, but in public places (see Rock Band Bar Nights program). With more and more exposure of Rock Band, many new artists and songs will be in front of people that they would never be before! I think these bands/labels are paying for exposure more than they are paying for returns to be honest.

One last statement. I vehemently disagree with people saying that charing $2500 a song, or any amount for that matter, is a scam. These companies are providing a service for a price. This is what we call a business, not a scam. It is up to the consumer to decide whether the service is worth the cost.

[SequenceF]

Read all those posts and thought I would throw my 2 cents in here.

I can definitely see why some people would think $2500 for a song is high. Not being in a band ever, I wouldn't know for sure, but I would assume that for an "indie" band this would be a lot of money to come up with. And for what most likely would be not a very good return at all. As was stated by a few posters here, most songs don't sell that many copies at all. But, they might have that money and decide that the exposure and the possible returns are worth it for them.

But, let's look at some other types of bands. Your a band with a label and they think this RBN sounds like a great idea! They want to put some of their artists in Rock Band, so they research how to do it. They say, "Hmm, it takes a good amount of work to put a song into rock band. But there are professional groups that do it for a fee." Well, instead of hiring people to do a number of songs for RBN, they decide to outsource this to a business that does this all the time. To me then, $2500 sounds like a very reasonable rate, in fact, might be on the low side.

Consider the amount of work that goes into making these tracks. Let's assume someone makes $25/hr doing this as their livelihood. This is a very reasonable rate to charge someone for a high-quality service.

Also, I think people are assuming that the current DLC selling rates will stay like they are now. I don't think this is true. Rock Band is getting more and more popular. Not only in homes, but in public places (see Rock Band Bar Nights program). With more and more exposure of Rock Band, many new artists and songs will be in front of people that they would never be before! I think these bands/labels are paying for exposure more than they are paying for returns to be honest.

One last statement. I vehemently disagree with people saying that charing $2500 a song, or any amount for that matter, is a scam. These companies are providing a service for a price. This is what we call a business, not a scam. It is up to the consumer to decide whether the service is worth the cost.

BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU MAKE SENSE LIKE THIS!!!

The unemployed musicians on this board will flame you and accuse you of being a member of the Rock Band coder companies trying to justify their scammy costs.

They will then go on to explain why the only fair solution is to chart the songs for free and *hope* that the bands, (which will be comprised of complete strangers) will be honest enough to give you a small royalty for each download

[Ehfahq]

The unemployed musicians on this board will flame you and accuse you of being a member of the Rock Band coder companies trying to justify their scammy costs.

You go from kissing his ass to talking smack in a few days. Take your meds. Or try to post with out useless insults.