Are you worried RBN will change charting?

[Blurbia]

the band themselves requested it be charted.

That makes me feel better about it, for the same reason-

I think it's awesome that they were that involved and cared about the charts.

[I_Love_You]

While it's cool for nostalgia value, it makes it feel nothing like Rock Band.

On drums, it was akward and not fun to play, at all.

Just as a note - I thought the song was amazing, I especially enjoyed the placement of the energy phrases (OD phrases?), which I would've expected a good chunk of charters/people to not think about as much. Just didn't like the inconsistency with the lack of a BRE.

I hate BREs, but in this case you have the dilema of drums being horrible and guitar being amazing... you want a BRE on one but not the other.

[BrynCamaro]

I wouldn't worry about much of a change in the charting. Like I said in the other thread, I asked for no BRE to make it feel like GH2. So, yeah, it made the drums crazy, but a lot of people seem to like it. I'm sorry if anyone didn't like it. I'm sure most people will stick with the BREs. I would opt for them in other songs.

[Xathian]

I do fear it. Bands will expect their songs to be realistically hard, for a damn video game that people play to have fun. Then it gets peer reviewed mostly by the people who would actually pay $100 just to play test for Rock Band: The Rock Band Elitists that Gold Star 200+ songs.

Meanwhile, the broad audience and the vast majority of the player base will just end up with a store full of Capiri di Diablo.

[BrynCamaro]

Ha, yeah. I can see that. I'm sure there are going to be a lot of shredfests coming up in RBN. On the other hand, there will probably be a lot of Jonathan Coulton types and less aggressive songs. It will be interesting to watch!

[kingtonyx]

There's variety between hard and easy songs on RBN, for instance I just tried out this song earlier...

"Your Call"

[Markleford]

I do fear it. Bands will expect their songs to be realistically hard, for a damn video game that people play to have fun. Then it gets peer reviewed mostly by the people who would actually pay $100 just to play test for Rock Band: The Rock Band Elitists that Gold Star 200+ songs.

Meanwhile, the broad audience and the vast majority of the player base will just end up with a store full of Capiri di Diablo.

Many playtesters are very conscious of making charts reasonable, particularly ones that are also authors themselves. We especially make sure the Easy and Medium parts remain sane, as those difficulty levels *do* tend to be ignored by the "Expert Elite" crowd who have just ponied up their $100 to feed their Difficulty Addiction.

Ha, yeah. I can see that. I'm sure there are going to be a lot of shredfests coming up in RBN. On the other hand, there will probably be a lot of Jonathan Coulton types and less aggressive songs. It will be interesting to watch!

That's also a saving grace: while there *is* a scary amount of insanely technical metal that's coming out on RBN (thanks in part to some big metal labels really believing in the platform: kudos!), there's also plenty of other material out there that isn't catering to difficulty whores.

(Insert plug for James William Roy, "Paper Valentines" here! Only 80 MSpoints! )

But as far as making technical songs technical? Well, that's as it should be, no? The only thing authors have to make sure of is that their Hard charts (and lower) still remain fun! Hopefully the playtesters can keep them honest in this regard.

- m

[Deschain]

I do fear it. Bands will expect their songs to be realistically hard, for a damn video game that people play to have fun. Then it gets peer reviewed mostly by the people who would actually pay $100 just to play test for Rock Band: The Rock Band Elitists that Gold Star 200+ songs.

For hating on the elitists, you're certainly acting like a snob. "How dare they place a colored gem for every appropriate note in the song that prevents me from playing at a level I'm accustomed to!"

Go to hard.

If there are only shredfests, that means they're the only ones passing review. Which seems unlikely, considering most "shredfests" have many more notes, which would probably take longer to do a thorough review on. Looking at the release list, there is certainly a good amount of metal on there, but there's plenty of other stuff that isn't close to 5 red devils. I'm looking forward to all of it.

[T-Hybrid]

Are the charts final edited by HMX themselves before this gets released?

If not, am I the only one worried that maybe RBN will eventually change the charting we all got used to from HMX?

Discuss..

Huh...?

[T-Hybrid]

I do fear it. Bands will expect their songs to be realistically hard, for a damn video game that people play to have fun. Then it gets peer reviewed mostly by the people who would actually pay $100 just to play test for Rock Band: The Rock Band Elitists that Gold Star 200+ songs.

Wow, way to overgeneralize and in the process of doing that insult the entire RBN peer review community.

Go look at the list, there's not as many "OMG CAPRICI!" songs as you'd think going by your uber-negative assessment.

Meanwhile, the broad audience and the vast majority of the player base will just end up with a store full of Capiri di Diablo.

Or not, considering the current assortment of songs and knowledge about songs in the pipeline.