My Personal Views on Genre Labeling

[Train05]

Well I had recently put up a thread revolving around the genre of Alternative Metal. But I began to question how some genres have been made to a wrong idea in some sorts. For example: grunge. Grunge truly isn't a genre when you think of it. Alice in Chains was labeled as grunge but in turn they were metal. It was because mainly of what they wear and where they came from. Just like screamo in ways. Hair Metal was a term that should have never been came up with. It basically is saying we can talk a band like Metallica and put them in the same group as Poison. Again these outlooks are personally mine and if you disagree I respect that. We all have rights to what we think and see but these are just my thoughts on it.

[Fizzeler]

Screamo and Grunge are genres just look at bands such as *insert afterstasis' list of essential screamo bands here* and Screaming Trees for grunge

Genre labeling is useful and helpful when done correctly

[Train05]

Screamo and Grunge are genres just look at bands such as *insert afterstasis' list of essential screamo bands here* and Screaming Trees for grunge

Genre labeling is useful and helpful when done correctly

But in other ways it brings out something that is not correct. With screamo it says that emotional people cut themselves and wear tight skinny jeans and all. But like a real emotion stays with their own thoughts and not all emotional people do such things.

[Gowienczyk]

Grunge -was- a genre, it just was used wrong in the media. Bands like Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots and such had nothing to do with the sound that developed in the mid to late 80s. Listen to a Coffin Break record after Rupture/Psychosis or a Paw, Tad, Gruntruck or My Sister's Machine record. It was clear these bands had either a AIC, Nirvana, etc. aesthetic and sound. The problem with grunge was it was a fashion term, a scene/movement term (akin to post-hardcore) and a genre term. It's annoyingly unsimplistic.

With screamo it says that emotional people cut themselves and wear tight skinny jeans and all.

Nononono. That is totally wrong, screamo lyrcisim is completely different and crap faux post-hardcore and pop-rock scene bands have given the wrong impression of what screamo really was and still is. Skramz as it is annoyingly known as, is very poetic. Example:

Out again humming that same monotony
knowing yet again that familiar feeling
that torn chance dream held together
by just that little bit by that tiny spec
of something promised
can you see it, yeah
well maybe you'll reach it one day
along with that calm pool
because in this pool
it's sink or swim
but you're caught doing the dead man's float
i wish i could give you something different
but i'm lying in the water face down beside you

[Fizzeler]

But in other ways it brings out something that is not correct. With screamo it says that emotional people cut themselves and wear tight skinny jeans and all. But like a real emotion stays with their own thoughts and not all emotional people do such things.

that is not screamo this is screamo/emo

[Mystlyfe77]

But in other ways it brings out something that is not correct. With screamo it says that emotional people cut themselves and wear tight skinny jeans and all. But like a real emotion stays with their own thoughts and not all emotional people do such things.

*swing and a miss*
http://emotivehardcore.com/

And Metallica isn't, and never has been, hair metal.

Genres are fine so long as you ignore the ignorant, uneducated, and dumb people.

[Rocket2Russia]

You say genres are bad for combining Metallica with Poison. Imagine a world without genres, a world where Mozart was lumped together with Chad Kroeger and Vanilla Ice.

[Train05]

*swing and a miss*
http://emotivehardcore.com/

And Metallica isn't, and never has been, hair metal.

Genres are fine so long as you ignore the ignorant, uneducated, and dumb people.

Well thats the thing. The modern version has given that out. The genre should only be called hardcore. That is genre name but society decided they wanted to mess around with things and call the genre screamo.

[Train05]

You say genres are bad for combining Metallica with Poison. Imagine a world without genres, a world where Mozart was lumped together with Chad Kroeger and Vanilla Ice.

Im not saying all genres are wrong I am just saying some of missed the point of many people.

[Gowienczyk]

I'm going to quote my friend Patrick here:

People who disregard genres entirely are most likely too immature to deal with the idea that their favorite band is categorically generic, which is often the case. However, people who adhere to genres like religion often do so out of an obsession in protecting whatever music they identify with from that which they "oppose" and, therefore, listen to generic tripe that is exploiting their allegiance.

Rather blunt and borederline attack, but truthful.

Also, subgenres are here for a very good reason.