Origination vs. Popularization

[Alaskan_Pipeline]

pretty much both are great especially bands like green day who started a lot of new punk stuff and then even popularitized it

[CommonCriminal]

pretty much both are great especially bands like green day who started a lot of new punk stuff and then even popularitized it

[Rocket2Russia]

I hate posts like "+1", but there is no better time than this.

+1

[CEEDZ13]

pretty much both are great especially bands like green day who started a lot of new punk stuff and then even popularitized it

Yeah, and bands like Blink 182 who made Punk popular.

But seriously, Originality is the key to being great imo. The Sex Pistols popularized punk rock and made many people "like" punk because it was cool. Bands like the Ramones started the movement and then got little to no credit. I'm not saying that popularization is a bad thing, but it makes people think that if they like "Anarchy in the U.K." or "God Save the Queen," they automatically are fans of the genre. This is one of the (few ) reasons why I hate bands like Atreyu and Bullet for My Vallentine.

[Rocket2Russia]

The Sex Pistols popularized punk rock and made many people "like" punk because it was cool. Bands like the Ramones started the movement and then got little to no credit..

What? Sex Pistols were basically banned on radio, and Ramones (as far as I know...) weren't. I'd argue they got similar credit in the punk scene and the latter probably got a bit more commerical/mainstream credit/success.

[CEEDZ13]

What? Sex Pistols were basically banned on radio, and Ramones (as far as I know...) weren't. I'd argue they got similar credit in the punk scene and the latter probably got a bit more commerical/mainstream credit/success.

Not trying to start a fight here (just said that because I send that vibe sometimes ) but the Ramones were one of the originators of punk rock, while the Sex Pistols came out a few years later. For all we know, the Sex Pistols may have put "bad werds" in their songs to get banned from the radio, thus making them more popular because if someone wanted to listen, they had to buy the record instead of waiting for it to come around on the radio. Ok, maybe not. The Sex Pistols and the other "original" punk bands from Europe (UK? Not sure.) were the popularizers (thats a word right? :P) of the punk scene and then everyone started liking it. Idk, it's kinda like the Pop-Punk genre, but it isn't. Hopefully you understand what I meant.

[Rocket2Russia]

Not trying to start a fight here (just said that because I send that vibe sometimes ) but the Ramones were one of the originators of punk rock, while the Sex Pistols came out a few years later. For all we know, the Sex Pistols may have put "bad werds" in their songs to get banned from the radio, thus making them more popular because if someone wanted to listen, they had to buy the record instead of waiting for it to come around on the radio. Ok, maybe not. The Sex Pistols and the other "original" punk bands from Europe (UK? Not sure.) were the popularizers (thats a word right? :P) of the punk scene and then everyone started liking it. Idk, it's kinda like the Pop-Punk genre, but it isn't. Hopefully you understand what I meant.

http://punkmusic.about.com/od/punk10...nkhistory2.htm

The Sex Pistols were after the Ramones, yes, but this does not immediately make them "popularizers" of punk and the Ramones originators. The entirety of both scenes laid some more on the foundations set by the New York Dolls, MC5, The Modern Lovers, etc.

As far as either "popularizing" punk rock, I'd say within the scene, both had the same credibility and popularity, and the Ramones had a slight upper hand on the mainstream side, as they weren't effectively banned from the airwaves. Obviously, neither was hugely popular when they were really in the punk scene.

[Rockbandfan23467]

I just created the first Celtic Death Opera. Am I important for doing it before others had the same idea?

[acdcrock]

He's right, he said new punk...he means pop punk. Green Day, blink-182, Sum 41 and No Doubt (kinda pop-punk/ska depending on the song)

[CommonCriminal]

He's right, he said new punk...he means pop punk. Green Day, blink-182, Sum 41 and No Doubt (kinda pop-punk/ska depending on the song)