Rock Band with Electronic Drums (HOWTO)

[zolon]

I am working on a standalone solution, that pretty much does this, using MIDI still.

Alot of MIDI Drum Set triggers are designed in a way that you can't just wire them directly to the RockBand Set pads. As the pads are pezio(sp?) triggers, they actually create voltage to trigger, where as (my) drum pads for my electric kit close a circut instead of creating voltage.

Not sure if that makes sense. Anyways, the only one that I have seen where you can just slap a pad on it and it works, is the bass kick. That one is a actual switch, and not a pezio trigger.

[brianwi]

Okay, now I need help from someone on here. I posted my MIDI note conversion to colors, as well as the R8 program to make it work. However, I don't know the MIDI notes for my TOM 2 RIM and TOM 3 RIM. I have a Roland V drum TD6SW (TD-6V brain). Can someone else who has their set hooked up (or could easily hook it up) to their computer tell me what the RIM shots are. (Oddly it's not in the manual, although TOM 1RIM is and it's midi note 50. Tom 2 is 45, and Tom 3 is 41. but I don't have the RIM ones. Couldn't find it online either.

I'm GUESSING they are 47 and 43 respectively but would appreciate some help. Thanks in advance.

[brianwi]

Um, nevermind my previous post. Aelius27 filled me in. the TOm 2 rim is AUX and TOM 3 rim is TOM 4...and those notes are in the manual. For those of you that care:

45: Tom 2 BLUE
32: AUX (also Tom 2 RIM) BLUE
41: Tom 3 GREEN
31: TOM 4 (also Tom 3 Rim) GREEN

[Duff420hed]

Would this eliminate some the programming and/or be usable directly to the 360?

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[Aelius27]

Would this eliminate some the programming and/or be usable directly to the 360?

http://www.americanmusical.com/item....m_medium=feed&

Nope, the 360 won't support that, and even if it did, Rock Band would have to be written to use it. Trust me, there are no solutions this easy on the horizon unless Harmonix decides to create/support them.

[Blanko]

Yikes! My controller looks very different. (See attached)

Can you guys help me locate the corresponding connections (to Aelius' board)? I'll be using a multimeter as well - but if someone could get me going...

I noticed the silkscreen has almost every connection labeled. Would those help in matching things up?

David

[Blanko]

Is there a way to test the controller connections without the pc relay?

I mean, by doing [something] with the wires I can trigger the drums hits...

Or might I need to have the opto-isolator part built as well? Aelius, would you be able to post a photo of your breadboard setup?


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[zolon]

You should be able to short the two wires to simulate holding the button down.

What does the other side of your board look like?

I havn't cracked mine open yet, still waiting on John. Only physical work I have done so far is replacing the switches for the strummer in a guitar with better ones. (Well, almost done with that, having a issue figuring out how to mount the new switch. Not placement, just attatchment.)

[Blanko]

Can I get a general consensus:
If you had the money, would you just do the R8 solution?

brianwi,
From what I understand, this mod only requires making the right connections on the controller. Connect those wires to the R8. Setup the R8 for your drums and you're on your way. Seems like the most compact and clean solution.

Are there any negatives to the R8 solution (besides price)?

Aelius, zolon, once implemented do the pc and msa mod have any other practical application? And even if they did, I'd need custom software for anything else I'd want to do with it... right?

I may just pickup an R8 tomorrow. brianwi - I'll be going over your documentation. For any one interested this is how you program the R8:

MIDI Solutions products are programmed by sending them MIDI System Exclusive messages. All that's needed to do this is a computer with a MIDI interface - the Edirol UM-1EX, Edirol UM-2EX, Yamaha UX16, and M-Audio Uno are low cost USB MIDI interfaces that can be used for this purpose (avoid the MIDI interfaces on this list). A computer is only required to program the MIDI Solutions products, once the products are programmed they retain their settings and can be inserted wherever they are needed in your MIDI setup.

Will you be around tomorrow evening?

[zolon]

I'm going the MSA route, and the only other use for it in how I am doing it is I could control xmas light with it. :P

I am sure there are others..

As far as the R8, yeah.. If I had the coin, I would have two of them.