RB3 Request a Feature, Bug Report and Suggestion Thread (no song requests)

[skyp1e]

For me that would only be valuable if it could play in the background and take the place of the music track in other games.

Actually, you can kind of do this now. Just use a game pad to start up a playlist in solo vocal mode, with no-fail turned on and the audience muted. You even get to watch your band's stage performance and you don't even have to plug in a mic. Didn't instrument controllers use to have a "performance mode" modifier to turn off display of the charts? That'd be even better.

Two problems. One is that you have to interact with the game between each song. The other is that the vocal track won't be as loud as it should this way.

[SirDavidTLynch]

They were planning a jukebox mode for Rock Band 2, but it was cut; apparently some record labels didn't like the idea.

[folkeye]

Two problems. One is that you have to interact with the game between each song. The other is that the vocal track won't be as loud as it should this way.

Can you make setlist (however many songs it allows) save it for the evening, make sure no fail is on, put 'performance mode on' and plug in a character only on vocals The volume is fine, and doesn't fade out if you're not singing. If you plug in an instrument, their sound will disappear shortly since it thinks somebody is missing notes.

I did this a lot and didn't notice vocals being less.

[peterock2007]

They were planning a jukebox mode for Rock Band 2, but it was cut; apparently some record labels didn't like the idea.

The tracks in game are licensed for use in game, they very likely would have to go out and relicense every single song to have a 3rd application to just play on demand such songs.

[skyp1e]

The tracks in game are licensed for use in game, they very likely would have to go out and relicense every single song to have a 3rd application to just play on demand such songs.

Then how does the licensing for Blitz work?

If what you say is true than they had to go out and re-license all the songs again (and I mean ALL the songs) for Blitz.

[peterock2007]

Then how does the licensing for Blitz work?

If what you say is true than they had to go out and re-license all the songs again (and I mean ALL the songs) for Blitz.

Because Blitz is a game that runs on the Rock Band platform and uses HMX produced charts that you play along to. Blitz is essentially just a dumbed down rock band. IE the standard rock band platform contract fits blitz.

But a stand alone application that just plays the music for entertainment probably doesn't fit under the contract. Music Licensing is hard. This type of application would have to deal with the royalty rates associated with radio play and music streaming because essentially that's what your asking for is a music streaming platform.

[skyp1e]

Because Blitz is a game that runs on the Rock Band platform and uses HMX produced charts that you play along to. Blitz is essentially just a dumbed down rock band. IE the standard rock band platform contract fits blitz.

But a stand alone application that just plays the music for entertainment probably doesn't fit under the contract. Music Licensing is hard. This type of application would have to deal with the royalty rates associated with radio play and music streaming because essentially that's what your asking for is a music streaming platform.

Not sure I follow your logic on this one. Not sure you're right about it either.

Essentially I could put RB in performance mode and listen to all the RB songs in my library and as long as I hit one button between song hear them plain as day.

I'm guessing with Blitz it will be similar.

HMX has licensed the music for RB and somehow they share that license now with Blitz. So, you're saying that because it's not a "game" per se we can't have this?

Fine, make it a game that will play the songs without interruption. Make it as crappy as you like and it will satisfy this legal issue you've spelled out.

I still don't think this licensing issue is the problem.

[mikeyts]

I still don't think this licensing issue is the problem.

I agree with him. From what I've heard, media licensing is extremely specific and a license which'd let these songs be used as game play content would probably not cover their use as music to be played for listening entertainment. We know that they have to re-license the on-disc songs to be exported to HDD for use as game play content by other RB games, which generally covers their use in all RB games (with a snag here an there, like the use of "Black Hole Sun" and "Dani California" in RB3, which had already been licensed for export from RB1 by those who paid and were usuable in RB2). Blitz is just another RB game.

The fact that you can set the songs up and let them run without actually playing is incidental and, as you've pointed out, not actually what you want since you have to interact with the game between songs. A jukebox music player can't be construed as a game and would be objected to by the music rights holders because it potentially robs them of the opportunity to sell you the music in general purpose music files.

[peterock2007]

Not sure I follow your logic on this one. Not sure you're right about it either.

Yeah as I specifically said Blitz is a interactive game that runs off of HMX charts.

You want an IPod that plays your dlc. Not the same thing as a rockband game obviously.

I am sure I am right.

If you do your research you'll see this was considered and dropped already like years ago. For fun go read the FAQ at Pandora, and see all the limitations they have on how to stream music, and they're working specifically inside their license, it only gets immensely harder when you try to mix licenses.

And that's not even mentioning the fact that with so little demand, how could they even begin to hope to break even after the cost of developing a new application and releasing it. You do release the vast vast majority of rockband players have little to no dlc. They're going to buy this application so they can listen to Headphones On and Charlene over and over again?

[skyp1e]

Yeah as I specifically said Blitz is a interactive game that runs off of HMX charts.

You want an IPod that plays your dlc. Not the same thing as a rockband game obviously.

I am sure I am right.

If you do your research you'll see this was considered and dropped already like years ago. For fun go read the FAQ at Pandora, and see all the limitations they have on how to stream music, and they're working specifically inside their license, it only gets immensely harder when you try to mix licenses.

And that's not even mentioning the fact that with so little demand, how could they even begin to hope to break even after the cost of developing a new application and releasing it. You do release the vast vast majority of rockband players have little to no dlc. They're going to buy this application so they can listen to Headphones On and Charlene over and over again?

So they're going to shut down HMX over this I guess?

Rock Band Radio

It's from the "Songs" page on this website