Rocksmith discussion thread - New real guitar game.

[kitlerc]

Ugh PS3 dlc is in.

$4.99 for Tighten UP?!?!?!?!

I don't think so.

It's gotta be a mistake right?

That is a mistake, it should be $2.99

[Chertenstein]

Thanks for the responses. I did get "Jules" by performing a double encore (which I think was awesome to get the privilege as a new guitarist). Awesome that there are bonus songs at all, I was unaware of that when I bought the game.

As for current discussion, money is tight right now, but as soon as that is resolved, getting all three DLC for the 15th. I suppose I could cancel my Skyrim preorder, but...

[SeattleSauve]

I'm a bit bummed about $3 per track. I've never been one to buy all DLC, so I'll still really only get the tracks I really want anyhow. The classic tracks they released all have really good guitar parts.

I'm holding off on new DLC until I play through the setlist. I still have so many songs on the disc I haven't played.

Has anyone figured out how double encores in events work? I've heard a few theories... Originally I thought it was total score, but after talking to a few folks I am thinking it might be more complicated than that... I'm wondering if it's related to your level, or if it's related to how well you've played the songs in the past... etc...

[broncosfan06]

I want Jessica so bad however the pricing of DLC is strange to me. With RB DLC you get; pro guitar, pro bass, regular guitar, regular bass, drums, pro drums, keys, pro keys, vocals and harmonies for $3. So $3 for a song in RS where you dont even get a fourth of that seems odd.

[Chertenstein]

With RB DLC you get; pro guitar, pro bass, regular guitar, regular bass, drums, pro drums, keys, pro keys, vocals and harmonies for $3. So $3 for a song in RS where you dont even get a fourth of that seems odd.

I think I can justify the expense as a novice guitarist. You are paying for dynamic difficulty, an effects pedal, and multiple guitar tracks. Am I happy with the $3 price tag? I wouldn't say that, but at the same time I won't condemn it. If anything, it just means I'll be much more selective with purchases than in RB3.

[mikeyts]

I want Jessica so bad however the pricing of DLC is strange to me. With RB DLC you get; pro guitar, pro bass, regular guitar, regular bass, drums, pro drums, keys, pro keys, vocals and harmonies for $3. So $3 for a song in RS where you dont even get a fourth of that seems odd.

We can make these comparisons but in the end it doesn't matter. RS and RB tracks are unique in their individual ways; with an RB DLC song + pro g/b upgrade you get a variable number of 5-lane charts and a few pro charts, but unless you play all of it or have friends with which to play all of it, the stuff that you don't use doesn't have any value at all to you. There are guitarists who bought RB3 because pro guitar was added; they're never going to play anything other than the pro guitar charts and all of the rest doesn't do anything for them. (I know people who took up pro guitar as a beginner and no longer find any of the 5-lane stuff to be any fun--I am not one of those people ). If you're only interested in learning the songs on guitar, RS DLC is arguably a better value, because you get the "Authentic Tone" with the songs which allows you come as close as possible to replicating the performance of the recording (there's also the matter of having the hear yourself play in RS, preferable for learning, at least to me). Just because something has more features doesn't make it a better value if you don't have a use for any of those features.

They're very different games--RS is just barely a "game" at all whereas RB is just barely a guitar trainer. RS could certainly be a more thorough-going guitar trainer, but that's its primary thrust, whereas RB3 pro guitar, while clever, is kind of tacked onto RB, whose main thrust remains being a band-simulation/rhythm-matching game, the vast majority of whose users have no interest whatsoever in learning to play songs on a real guitar. RB is likely to always have a much larger market for its DLC and economies of scale will effect the price that they can charge, and only a few percent of their customers will spend that extra dollar for the pro g/b upgrade. Why are textbooks so much more expensive than pop novels? They both contain a bunch of words, right? Because one will be bought by orders of magnitude more people than the other.

Whatever. RB DLC is not in competition with RS DLC; since neither product's DLC can be used on the other platform, comparing their relative value is useless. Either you want RS DLC enough to pay what it costs or you don't. It is what it is.

[SFen24X]

Mastered "Tighten Up" in about twenty minutes and played it in Master Mode after two runs of the song.

[dog037]

It's $3 for pro guitar on Rock Band 3 too, you just get other instruments as well.

[toymachineSH]

Not sure if you read the arstechnica write up which is along the lines of **** tier of Joystiq or Kotaku but some guy absolutely destroyed Kuchera in the comments.

Wanted to share and will probably regret it later on today haha

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The problem with that is people who have no guitar experience don't know if they're picking up bad habits, or learning anything of value, or... well, anything. This is their first interaction with actually playing the guitar in many cases. I'm way more interested in having someone who has a working knowledge of what is trying to be taught assess the teaching tools.

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You mean bad habit like only playing with the first three fingers of your fretting hand (Slash, Stevie Vai, Eric Clapton, Hendrix, Eddie Van Halen, etc.). Or Bad habits like having to look at your hands when you play to keep reference to where you are on the neck (see previous list), or bad habits like having to change arrangements from their original writing, arranging pieces so the solos depend mainly on very few frets over very few strings and depend mainly on bends for emphasis, or playing slower arrangements because you can't react that fast (Clapton). Or do you mean bad habits like playing guitar slung at waist level instead of up with strings at chest level and the guitar almost completely horizontal across your body (pretty much every modern guitar player, most likely including yourself). Every guitar player has a plethora of bad habits... And frankly bad habits don't make a lick of difference so long as you can work around them which is what seperates the great guitar players from the average. The only difference being the great guitar players realize they have those habits and accomadate them in the pieces they play, such a clapton playing slower works or "simpler" arrangements very very well so it sounds beautiful, or Slash's primarily keeping his fast runs confined to very narrow fret/string ranges. There are very very very few guitar players, even professionally that play with the technical aptitude and lack of bad habits such as Brian Haner Jr., or Yngwie Malmsteen. Most are absolutly atrocious from a habits standpoint.

And I am guessing you were never in high-school band or a professional orchestra Ben as you would realize that actually very little time is ever focused in instrumental training on working on technique (when you have an orchestra of 100+ students you can't exactly focus on technique for everyone in 30 minutes a day). And music theory is generally only a requirment for those planning on going into instructional roles in music (I actually know several fellow musicians that don't have an ounce of theory in them and are first chair players in various organizations). It is literally just practice, practice, practice. And this is from someone who was First chair french horn in high school orchestra, first chair mellophone in marching band and third chair French horn in the USAF orchestra out of Colorado Springs. Now admitedly I am no "rock god" and never played guitar in a club on stage (I only play music now to relax), but from a professional music aspect it hits all the right notes and does everything pretty much perfect from an instructional/practice standpoint.

Funny thing is everyone I talk to that is connected to music in an actual professional stand point (professional band instructors, orchestra members, i.e. people that have spent significant portions of their life focused on music) pretty much disagree completely and think it is a fantastic tool (actually one of my cousin's husband is a professional guitar player and instructor in OKC and he is actually recommending it to his students for practice time and structuring lesson plans around it for those students who have access to it). Not to mention given all but pretty much 2 reviews from the media disagree with you, and all of the player reviews on meta-critic disagree I would have to say you are actually wrong this time.

There is a huge difference between not coming to a consensus/simply having a difference of opinion on a subjective matter, and a total disconnect from reality from everyone else. Especially when that difference of opinion is with people actually in the industry (musical instruction/ professional performance).

[MooTrain]

Mastered "Tighten Up" in about twenty minutes and played it in Master Mode after two runs of the song.

Impressive!

I've only mastered one song so far (the combo arrangement of Go with the Flow) which I'm currently sitting on a 290ish note streak and 97%. What other dirt easy songs are on there? I've noticed When I'm With You by Best Coast is fairly simple too, as is Satisfaction and Next Girl.

But none are as easy as Go with the Flow to me...