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  1. #3111
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyts View Post
    People who buy the game new get that double content for the same price that we paid and we're being asked to increase our investment by 38% over what they're paying (based on the $80 disc+cable that I paid, 60% over the current commonly available $50 price), penalizing us for investing in the unfinished product.
    They're simply doing the courteous thing, as far as I can tell. It's absolutely no different than releasing a "Game of the Year" edition. Again using Oblivion as an example, if you buy that game now for $20, you get all the DLC plus Shivering Isles. Is that punishing the people who bought the game new, and then had to buy the DLC? What they're doing with Rocksmith is no more "penalizing" than that.

    I don't see the point of criticizing them for lowering the entry costs. What if a bassist wants to play the game, but has no interest in playing the guitar portion of the game? If it was as you'd like it, then they'd have to buy the core game, and then buy the $30 DLC, just because they decided to play politics and not upset their original fanbase. They now have to pay $90 (slightly higher or lower depending on how much the disc is now) in order to play the bass portion of the game.

    It's also the smart thing to do financially. Those who have not bought the game up to this point are much more likely to invest now that it features double the content. A far smaller number will be interested in buying the game, than paying for an expensive add on.

    And frankly, insinuating that the original game was "unfinished" without bass could be seen as insulting. I have no idea if bass was in the works before release date, but as far as we knew, bass was never intended to be in Rocksmith, and was never advertised as such. It's like saying Rock Band is incomplete without DLC. This is not a patch, it's an add-on, meant to improve the game, not finish it.

    I don't know, it all seems akin to children getting mad at the fortune of other children. "But he got more cake than I did!". Sheesh, do we really need to moan every time an opportunity opens for others that isn't available for us?
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  2. #3112
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    I suppose that it is a bit like pissing and moaning about a GOTY release and, since I stopped playing multiplayer shooters, I usually wait for games to become Xbox On Demand downloads at half the launch price or less. It's not that they're asking people to pay for the upgrade that bothers me, its that they're asking so much for it. Whatever--it doesn't matter since I have no desire to learn to play bass and I'm not going to buy it anyway.

    BTW, I'm fairly sure that this was in their general FAQ before release:
    Is there bass in the game?

    Bass is not included on the disk since our primary focus is guitar. However, we realize that there is a high demand for bass guitar, and we are working to release this as downloadable in the near future.
    They got hammered by people asking them where bass support was ever since they first showed the product.
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  3. #3113
    Quote Originally Posted by instantdeath999 View Post
    They're simply doing the courteous thing, as far as I can tell. It's absolutely no different than releasing a "Game of the Year" edition. Again using Oblivion as an example, if you buy that game now for $20, you get all the DLC plus Shivering Isles. Is that punishing the people who bought the game new, and then had to buy the DLC? What they're doing with Rocksmith is no more "penalizing" than that.

    I don't see the point of criticizing them for lowering the entry costs. What if a bassist wants to play the game, but has no interest in playing the guitar portion of the game? If it was as you'd like it, then they'd have to buy the core game, and then buy the $30 DLC, just because they decided to play politics and not upset their original fanbase. They now have to pay $90 (slightly higher or lower depending on how much the disc is now) in order to play the bass portion of the game.

    It's also the smart thing to do financially. Those who have not bought the game up to this point are much more likely to invest now that it features double the content. A far smaller number will be interested in buying the game, than paying for an expensive add on.

    And frankly, insinuating that the original game was "unfinished" without bass could be seen as insulting. I have no idea if bass was in the works before release date, but as far as we knew, bass was never intended to be in Rocksmith, and was never advertised as such. It's like saying Rock Band is incomplete without DLC. This is not a patch, it's an add-on, meant to improve the game, not finish it.

    I don't know, it all seems akin to children getting mad at the fortune of other children. "But he got more cake than I did!". Sheesh, do we really need to moan every time an opportunity opens for others that isn't available for us?
    You really stuck the landing on that one.

    Well said.
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    Wait... we're getting cake with the new patch?

  5. #3115
    Quote Originally Posted by Lawdog1521 View Post
    Wait... we're getting cake with the new patch?
    Meat Cake
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    Can you talk more about your bass experience?
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    Has anyone opined if they preferred RS or Bandfuse?

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    Pls improve guitar pro for RB4. Any guitar, no mute, dynamic difficulty

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    Quote Originally Posted by doom878 View Post
    has anyone opined if they preferred rs or bandfuse?

    hahahahahaha
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  9. #3119
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    PC or Console? That is the question ...
    PC would allow me to have it all with me on my laptop wherever I go, and to be able to play on earphones while some else occupied the TV ... Console, well it's all ready and plugged in to the HT system and DLC is more streamlined (you do have to fight SCEE on PS3 though).
    What are your thoughts ... And no "both" is cheating, I'm not paying my dlc twice!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawdog1521 View Post
    Wait... we're getting cake with the new patch?
    The cake is a lie. </dead meme>

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    Meat Cake
    Zing! You, sir, have won two Internets. Well played.
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