Rocksmith discussion thread - New real guitar game.

[alexlifeson]

To see master mode in action see this video after he messes up with a low score
3rd segment in
http://youtu.be/GtLvZ3eFcNQ

... to take out the Guitar if that is the case in that final mode depending how how it is presented. Make sense? Maybe you've unlocked a master mode for a song in Rocksmith and have seen it and heard it, I haven't yet and am curious to how that final mode is set up and what method and approach the developers may have taken in their design choices and if the theory that they didn't "need" to have all of the individual "stems"

[PanchoX1]

I had the same issue when trying to play Outshined by Soundgarden for the 1st time last night. Kept getting the up/down arrow warning me I was off when I wasnt.

Hmmm
This was on my Carvin DC135T which stays in tune and hardly ever goes out and can stay in tune for many many songs thanks to its awesome bridge/tremelo system

Hope they figure it out

Hmm.... well, chances are, it's not my guitar then. Well, that is a little discouraging. I agree, I hope they figure it out. strange that it would work fine then start missing notes like that. I did check my guitar's tune outside the game and it was a little flat. but the game was acting like it was sharp.

[PanchoX1]

seems like if I tune the 6th string a bit flat after tuning it to D, the game registers my fretting during the song but the tuner will tell me that Im out of tune.

[NOT_Travis]

<Devil's Advocate> IIRC, these issues with note detection that some are describing is one of the reasons that HMX went the route that they did with the Fender. Additionally, as someone else mentioned, there is an awful lot of other stuff going on at the same time as a Pro Guitar chart when you're playing with a full chart in RB3 that RS doesn't have to worry about. Band animation, lighting, camera angles, more note/vocal highways, etc. I'm pretty sure that those are a couple of things that drove them to use a single guitar. Just like in computing, there are sometimes hardware conflicts. <Devil's Advocate>

I'm frankly amazed that the algorithms processing the guitar output work as well as they do. It just goes to show you the massive processing power that we have in our living rooms these days.

Due to the overwhelming feedback I've read so far in this thread (and I have read it from the beginning), and the great reviews--except for those knuckleheads at Joystiq--it's received, I'm about 95% sure that I'll be getting this game for many of the same reasons already stated: I got the Squier, but the learning curve within RB3's structure is too flippin' steep and it's too hard to stay motivated (read: I'm lazy and want instant or near-instant gratification).

To address SeymourDuncan7's, and to a much lesser extent, GRRRUMBLE's, concerns about this taking away from RB3: Doc said it best. I have approximately $1100 invested in my Frankenstein ION kit at this point, and I already have the Squier, so RS will be a better learning tool, and then I can play the hell out of the Pro Guitar charts in RB3. HMX will not be losing a dime that they would have gotten from me for DLC. I'm going to have to buy both.

An acquaintance of mine who does play guitar already has it and has already encouraged me to grab it if I'm interested. I'm going to take all of your and his advice. Screw that band of raving idiots at Joystiq.

[PaperMario21]

yes, but Cloud's statment regarding Master mode raised a questiong regarding how that was handled which raised a question rearding the posibility of the need for individual tracks, to take out the Guitar if that is the case in that final mode depending how how it is presented. Make sense? Maybe you've unlocked a master mode for a song in Rocksmith and have seen it and heard it, I haven't yet and am curious to how that final mode is set up and what method and approach the developers may have taken in their design choices and if the theory that they didn't "need" to have all of the individual "stems" (I'm not familiar with that term) so the licenceing was less is a valid one. Personally, I don't think that one final mixed track or mulitple instrument tracks for the same song would affect the price of a licence because it's still the same song but I am not in the business so I don't really know. But I am curious.

Cloud did misunderstand the question, he's talking about masters as in "tabulature".
We're talking about sound differences between separated stems in master tracks, Rocksmith uses just regular MP3 style tracks you'd buy from Itunes, etc... no separation at all so you hear guitar even if you don't play it but what you will play you'll hear on top of the guitar that is playing from the track.

[WillDrum4Food]

Due to the overwhelming feedback I've read so far in this thread (and I have read it from the beginning), and the great reviews--except for those knuckleheads at Joystiq--it's received, I'm about 95% sure that I'll be getting this game for many of the same reasons already stated: I got the Squier, but the learning curve within RB3's structure is too flippin' steep and it's too hard to stay motivated (read: I'm lazy and want instant or near-instant gratification).

As someone who has the Squier, I'd seriously urge you to look around for a good deal (second-hand, first-hand "entry level", etc.) on any other guitar but that one.

I mentioned a few pages back that I initially tried (and hoped) to use the Squier as my RS guitar, too, but I had too many hangups just in the opening tuning page alone to make it a fun experience.
That's not to diminish the Squier, of course...
That baby still works perfectly for me within RB3 and I'm thrilled that I got it. It's just a "beast" when trying to play RS.

Got myself a sweet pawn shop deal on a Yamaha RGX 112 yesterday and the "fun factor" in RS improved a thousand-fold. (Not to mention that I Googled the RGX and it turns out I really did get a hell of a guitar for the price. This thing's a vintage workhorse. )
Plays beautifully now but I'm getting it fully restored by a guitar tech on Tuesday. (The action's a little high on the upper frets. Something to be expected from a guitar that's been hanging on a wall for years while the strings tugged at the neck.)

Seriously, though.... put some genuine thought into getting another guitar.

[NOT_Travis]

As someone who has the Squier, I'd seriously urge you to look around for a good deal (second-hand, first-hand "entry level", etc.) on any other guitar but that one.

I mentioned a few pages back that I initially tried (and hoped) to use the Squier as my RS guitar, too, but I had too many hangups just in the opening tuning page alone to make it a fun experience.
That's not to diminish the Squier, of course...
That baby still works perfectly for me within RB3 and I'm thrilled that I got it. It's just a "beast" when trying to play RS.

Got myself a sweet pawn shop deal on a Yamaha RGX 112 yesterday and the "fun factor" in RS improved a thousand-fold. (Not to mention that I Googled the RGX and it turns out I really did get a hell of a guitar for the price. This thing's a vintage workhorse. )
Plays beautifully now but I'm getting it fully restored by a guitar tech on Tuesday. (The action's a little high on the upper frets. Something to be expected from a guitar that's been hanging on a wall for years while the strings tugged at the neck.)

Seriously, though.... put some genuine thought into getting another guitar.

It was actually your earlier post (like I said, I've read every single one of the almost 1,700 posts in this thread) that got me thinking about a different electric. Where the hell I'd put that in our already-cramped apartment is another question entirely. The living room's already full of the Frankenstein ION kit, RB keyboards, 2 working plastic axes, 2 far-less-than-working axes, a Mustang, and a Squier. (Our RB equipment is partially a community effort, but I have spent close to $2,000 on just the hardware...wow.) So ANOTHER guitar would probably make my wonderful (tolerant!) spouse blow a gasket.

That's the same reason that I don't have an acoustic drum kit yet. Well, that, and they're pretty expensive. But there's no room even if I had the coin. So I'll probably suffer, if that's what it turns out to be, with the Squier until I have a larger space/man-cave/Fortress of Solitude.

I appreciate the advice very much and I'm itching to get this day over with so I can hit BB and grab a copy. Even with a less-than-ideal guitfiddle.

EDIT: my wife plays non-Pro bass on expert very well, but our Rock Band equipment < her desire for a house.

[randomas]

I havn't read all 168 posts, so I'll ask (probably again).
Will one be able to use the rocksmith dongle with rockband?

In HMX place I'd try and get a crosslicensing deal with ubi.
The two games are really competitors, rb3 does a whole band and is a social game, while rocksmith is a solo endeavor.
HMX should go public and say they love rocksmith.
The people who spent the cash on a squier (probably also own a real guitar, like I do), are going to want both games. We're music / guitar enthusiasts and will beg/borrow/steal in order to have everything that gets us any closer to the music world.
Rocksmith caters to a demographic that is small and has a big overlap on a very small part of rb's. But this niche is going to have both games anyway ... No reason not to make us happy and collaborate.

I really hope they release a patch to make the dongle work.
For one small, little, insignificant reason ... PRO BASS on a REAL BASS!!!!
OH PLEASE, PETTY PLEASE ...

[PanchoX1]

seems like if I tune the 6th string a bit flat after tuning it to D, the game registers my fretting during the song but the tuner will tell me that Im out of tune.

hmmm... well, I switched to my Les Paul and had zero errors with the 6th string in drop d tuning. My next idea would be to change out the e string on my Ibanez and see if that makes a difference.

[Doom878]

Wow great Muse vid and nice bonus with Lamb of God I intro!