2011 NFL thread

[FloodOne]

You're absolutely right.


You did indeed misread my post.

Apparently Polian was a huge *******.

Yeah, I've heard similar stories about Polian's dick behavior over the years. When you start missing on draft picks, you don't get to be a tyrant anymore, and apparently Polian didn't know that.

[HeyRiles]

I think Im not alone in thinking that the NFL seriously needs to reconsider its officiating parameters regarding QB and WR contact. We had...what...THREE 5000 yard throwers this year? a bunch of 4500+.

I bring this up because I think of the Giants season, where they had one of the worst run production and defenses in the NFL, but get into the playoffs largely by virtue of the fact that Eli could flip an unknown receiver and make him break the team receiving record. Why run the ball anymore?

What does QB and WR contact have to do with anything? Penalties don't factor into passing yards and regardless of contact the receiver still has to make the catch for the yards to count

It's gonna be a passing league for a number of years now, whether you like it or not. Running backs are becoming far less valuable and the biggest trend right now is big receiving tight ends. Brady had two huge, undefendable targets, and Brees had Graham who accounted for 24% of his yards

[Cubecubed]

Yeah and Stafford, the other 5000 yard guy, had Megatron. Nuff said there, really.

[gmarsh]

The Niners certainly have a chance, but I have a hard time seeing a team winning a Super Bowl without an elite Quartebrack.

[Cubecubed]

2006 Colts

Ahahahahahaha

[topperharley]

2006 Colts

Speaking of PeyPey, the more I think about it (which is probably a lot less than Flood does), the more I want him to sign with Dallas. If he can come back and play at a quality level, the idea of twice-yearly Manning Bowls would be pretty intriguing.

[gmarsh]

2000 Ravens
2006 Colts
2007 Giants

2000- May be recent memory, but it's a different league.
2006- You're funny.
2007- Not sure if you're joking or not, but Eli is elite.

[JBlack240]

I don't think an elite quarterback is needed as much as a great defense is. If you happen to have both though, you've struck gold.

[FloodOne]

2006 Colts

Good one. Guess I'll call Peyton and tell him to return his four MVPs, two AFC rings and Super Bowl ring.

[Dante1847]

What does QB and WR contact have to do with anything? Penalties don't factor into passing yards and regardless of contact the receiver still has to make the catch for the yards to count

you're kidding right? it's no secret that NFL contact penalties have gone way up, fines more frequently imposed. Receivers can cross the middle of the field with ease now when in the past they would **** their pants just thinking of trying it. Defensive ends whose job is to hit the quarterback have to worry post-game fines being thrown at them

End result is that defenses, and especially secondaries are at a disadvantage and have to shy off a bit, translating into ridiculous passing games.

This, by the way, is not an assessment of any individual quarterback. I acknowledge that there are quarterbacks who can achieve 5000 yards on their talent, but the system overall is tailored in favor of the QBs and WRs at the moment.

Here are some noteworthy points that show the difference between Marino's NFL and Brees' (taken from this article)
-in 1984, Marino's record year, only two quarterbacks threw for 4000 yards; no one else passed 3800
-in 2011, ten QBs will have thrown for 4000 yards; six for 4500+; and 3 for 5000+
-in 1984, five QBs attempted 500 passes
-in 2011, at least 10 have done so (3 have eclipsed 600 attempts)

that shows disparity, any way you want to slice it muchacho