For PS3 Players (double bass charting)

[Doc_SoCal]

They should release 2X Bass RBN songs on PS3 and those songs charted that way should be the ONLY version sent to PS3. Not two versions for sure.

As with all things DLC related, its optional so people can choose to buy em or not.

It is time.

[lvmathemagician]

This would require exactly no extra work.

It's not a matter of extra work. If I have to choose between porting over a 2x bass song that may sell 50 copies and a new song that may sell more, I'm going to port over the new song.

[lvmathemagician]

I think more than a few people have quit playing Rock Band out of disgust with the double bass situation especially considering some other games and I don't want that to happen anymore.

Why do you think this? Do you have any evidence to support your position?

[dansolo]

Why do you think this? Do you have any evidence to support your position?

These very forums. As someone pointed out this is not an isolated request. I wouldn't mind so much if just the dominant foot playing was charted but is usually inconsistent the way they deal with double bass. This isn't something I used to care too much about but especially with Megalodon it's starting to send me over the edge.
I know a lot of people think double bass is stupid and is just running in place but guys like Brann Dailor and Joey Jordison are ****ing awesome drummers amongst many others with songs in the game and it is too bad we can't rock out like them. I've had my only set of double pedals hooked up to my kickpad on the ions for years in anticipation and if I move them to my real set I'm afraid I'll be done.

[Saccian]

Unplayable how? On Expert? We are basically playing those kinds of songs now not on expert but on hard, this would allow those with the capability to really play on Expert.

As far as I am aware, any set of bass beats above a certain speed had to be charted out for a single kick pedal. So those charts that require 2x bass pedals are probably too quick for the average person to hit with just one pedal. This is how it would potentially become unplayable in that a player couldn't get the notes without having an 'upgraded' drum set even if they tried.

I haven't had a chance to look at the all the 2x bass charts out there but from what I saw, the double kick portions are all for 16th(or maybe 32nd) notes with a quick tempo and are meant to be played with two pedals. I do have the equipment to get a double kick setup so I wouldn't mind trying to 2x charts however unless the way the songs are released to the PS3 is changed, I'de rather they go with the version more people are likely to get. This increases my chances of playing it with someone online.

[dansolo]

As far as I am aware, any set of bass beats above a certain speed had to be charted out for a single kick pedal. So those charts that require 2x bass pedals are probably too quick for the average person to hit with just one pedal. This is how it would potentially become unplayable in that a player couldn't get the notes without having an 'upgraded' drum set even if they tried.

I haven't had a chance to look at the all the 2x bass charts out there but from what I saw, the double kick portions are all for 16th(or maybe 32nd) notes with a quick tempo and are meant to be played with two pedals. I do have the equipment to get a double kick setup so I wouldn't mind trying to 2x charts however unless the way the songs are released to the PS3 is changed, I'de rather they go with the version more people are likely to get. This increases my chances of playing it with someone online.

If you wanted to play the song without two pedals you could do so but you would have to drop down to hard difficulty or put the game on No Fail mode if you play on expert and prepare for pain. This is not about duplicate versions, although I would buy them all if offered, but about songs going forward.

[Saccian]

If Harmonix decides to change their standard then there would be no need for a separate 2x bass version. I was surprised it didn't happen for RB3 to be honest, maybe they just didn't want it to look like they were copying Guitar Hero's Expert+ mode. Because of this, it is not a simple matter of one song being the true expert version and the other more of a Hard or Harder level difficulty which is how I think you are considering it. It is more similar to a regular chart vs pro-upgrade, the song is the same, chart is different, scoring will be different, and you need an upgrade to be able to properly play it. If this standard disappears then having the 2x bass chart would be more appropriate. Maybe in RB4 we'll see Expert+.

[dansolo]

If Harmonix decides to change their standard then there would be no need for a separate 2x bass version. I was surprised it didn't happen for RB3 to be honest, maybe they just didn't want it to look like they were copying Guitar Hero's Expert+ mode. Because of this, it is not a simple matter of one song being the true expert version and the other more of a Hard or Harder level difficulty which is how I think you are considering it. It is more similar to a regular chart vs pro-upgrade, the song is the same, chart is different, scoring will be different, and you need an upgrade to be able to properly play it.

Yeah, there would just be one version and it would be fully charted on expert unlike the way things are now. People probably shouldn't try to play them on EXPERT if they didn't possess and familiarize themselves with double pedals. To simplify, basically just port over the 2x version from X-Box instead of the single version.

[dansolo]

If Harmonix decides to change their standard then there would be no need for a separate 2x bass version. I was surprised it didn't happen for RB3 to be honest, maybe they just didn't want it to look like they were copying Guitar Hero's Expert+ mode. Because of this, it is not a simple matter of one song being the true expert version and the other more of a Hard or Harder level difficulty which is how I think you are considering it. It is more similar to a regular chart vs pro-upgrade, the song is the same, chart is different, scoring will be different, and you need an upgrade to be able to properly play it. If this standard disappears then having the 2x bass chart would be more appropriate. Maybe in RB4 we'll see Expert+.

That's a separate issue but I also very much agree with you. What upsets me more is that there are double bass songs out there already charted that ps3 users don't have access to.

[blckshp]

Unplayable how? On Expert? We are basically playing those kinds of songs now not on expert but on hard, this would allow those with the capability to really play on Expert.

And prevent the other users from obtaining gold stars just because they don't have a second pedal.......selfish.