The TAG new music initiative

[TubaDude49]

Waiting on the label

Everything is still moving forward. Just waiting on confirmation of which songs and the paperwork so we can get the kickstarter going

For last minute input, I'd still go for multi-artist packs. I think those would be a lot easier for people to rally behind, instead of the devoted fans of one artist.

[Cipher_Peon]

For last minute input, I'd still go for multi-artist packs. I think those would be a lot easier for people to rally behind, instead of the devoted fans of one artist.

I'm on board with this. Toot toot!

[Bront20]

For last minute input, I'd still go for multi-artist packs. I think those would be a lot easier for people to rally behind, instead of the devoted fans of one artist.

Single artists pack advantages and disadvantages:

1. Makes it easier to get a group of songs from a single artist, which means you're less likely to only get 1 song from that artist.
2. Probably easier to handle the paperwork because you're limiting the number of people involved a bit (most of the same folks have to sign 3 contracts vs 3 different sets of people)
3. More likely to get more money out of dedicated fan.
4. Less likely to get some general appeal money.

Multi-artists pack advantages and disadvantages:

1. More likely to get more money out of a wider verity of people
2. Less likely to appeal to hardcore fans of a single band
3. More paperwork with different people
4. Possible conflicts of some artists/labels being handled together.

Yeah, single artist packs are probably better.

[GNFfhqwhgads]

But TAG can go after what they want a BIT easier than Harmonix can. If they do multi-artist 'packs', they can do several of them that end up adding up to 3+ songs by any given artist.

[randomas]

Is there any, even a remote chance, that HMX will let TAG do pro-upgrades? Because if that were the case there are some band packs I would put 100 euros towards.

I know that RBN aren't allowed to do pro-upgrades (something about quality control). But maybe, I'm kind of hoping that HMX will reconsider its position somewhat or make an exception, because these would kind of be "official" DLC due to the proper licensing, and that TAG is pouring real resources into this. Hell I'd be willing to test the pro-upgrades if one could use a ps3 as a testing station (only reason I haven't signed up for the authoring stuff).

[TubaDude49]

But TAG can go after what they want a BIT easier than Harmonix can. If they do multi-artist 'packs', they can do several of them that end up adding up to 3+ songs by any given artist.

This. There wouldn't be any additional hassle to getting multi artist packs, because each of the Kickstarter packs would be through the same label, hence the reasoning for getting multiple songs at once, the liscencing discount.

[NOT_Travis]

Earlier in this thread it was discussed that no, there are no RBN pro (guitar and bass) upgrades. It's too resource intensive, and there's no testing infrastructure, along with an install base that's frankly too small to justify all that effort.

[FujiSkunk]

I know that RBN aren't allowed to do pro-upgrades (something about quality control). But maybe, I'm kind of hoping that HMX will reconsider its position somewhat or make an exception, because these would kind of be "official" DLC due to the proper licensing, and that TAG is pouring real resources into this.

I would love to see pro strings in some RBN tracks too, but I do have to take issue with that "proper licensing" bit. Just because a song is in the RBN doesn't mean it wasn't "properly" licensed. Every song in the game, whether it came from Harmonix or from an RBN author, has been "properly" licensed, with the paper trail to prove it.

[randomas]

I would love to see pro strings in some RBN tracks too, but I do have to take issue with that "proper licensing" bit. Just because a song is in the RBN doesn't mean it wasn't "properly" licensed. Every song in the game, whether it came from Harmonix or from an RBN author, has been "properly" licensed, with the paper trail to prove it.

Absolutely that was not what I meant or was trying to infer, there'd be people in jail or paying massive damages if that weren't the case. What I meant was that allot of rbn is bands or artists doing their own music, or asking someone to do it for them, which is different from seeking out "big" bands or artists, and sorting out and finding resources for complicated licensing deals.

As for the pro-upgrade lack of resources and viable user base, this that and the other arguments, I think most pro users (a significant or at least sufficient number), would happily volunteer in the quality control process, and probably be willing to pay for the privilege. I can't help think that publishing the tabs for a real guitar (I know there's more to it, but it's a decent approximation) has to be easier than adapting it to 5 buttons. But that's just my 0.02 $.

[Catch-22]

Absolutely that was not what I meant or was trying to infer, there'd be people in jail or paying massive damages if that weren't the case. What I meant was that allot of rbn is bands or artists doing their own music, or asking someone to do it for them, which is different from seeking out "big" bands or artists, and sorting out and finding resources for complicated licensing deals.

You know nothing about licensing content for RBN then.

As for the pro-upgrade lack of resources and viable user base, this that and the other arguments, I think most pro users (a significant or at least sufficient number), would happily volunteer in the quality control process, and probably be willing to pay for the privilege. I can't help think that publishing the tabs for a real guitar (I know there's more to it, but it's a decent approximation) has to be easier than adapting it to 5 buttons. But that's just my 0.02 $.

The "I know there's more to it" is correct. The "it's a descent approximation" comment is so far off the mark. It takes HMX as long to do a pro guitar chart as it takes them to chart EVERYTHING ELSE COMBINED. What about that sounds easy? Also are you pro guitar players capable of testing the songs? Would you know if it's wrong and if so what's right? There's more to it than being able to play the instrument.