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    Quote Originally Posted by soup567 View Post
    As terrible as a crime murder is, I am 100% opposed to the death penalty. Innocent people wind up getting killed because of it.
    And jailing severe criminals is likewise a drain on society. There are occasionally instances where there is 0% doubt and irrefutable proof that somebody is guilty of a horrible criminal act. It is in these instances where the death penalty should be applied swiftly instead of housing somebody for decades waffling back and forth about whether a death penalty that has already been decided by the courts is going to be acted upon.

    What about repeat offenses of murder? How many second chances need to be given before it's decided that somebody is unfit to ever be part of society and rehabilitation is not feasible? If somebody cannot be rehabilitated, it's not worth keeping them imprisoned for the rest of their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raynebc View Post
    And jailing severe criminals is likewise a drain on society. There are occasionally instances where there is 0% doubt and irrefutable proof that somebody is guilty of a horrible criminal act. It is in these instances where the death penalty should be applied swiftly instead of housing somebody for decades waffling back and forth about whether a death penalty that has already been decided by the courts is going to be acted upon.

    What about repeat offenses of murder? How many second chances need to be given before it's decided that somebody is unfit to ever be part of society and rehabilitation is not feasible? If somebody cannot be rehabilitated, it's not worth keeping them imprisoned for the rest of their lives.
    I say no in every case because as long as the death penalty remains there are going to be people who are innocent that are going to end up wrongly accused and sentenced. I think instead of focusing on punishing criminals we should be focusing on crime prevention by fighting poverty and implementing stricter gun control measures like the assault weapons ban and and better background checks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soup567 View Post
    I say no in every case because as long as the death penalty remains there are going to be people who are innocent that are going to end up wrongly accused and sentenced. I think instead of focusing on punishing criminals we should be focusing on crime prevention by fighting poverty and implementing stricter gun control measures like the assault weapons ban and and better background checks.
    I take it you believe OJ really was innocent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soup567 View Post
    I say no in every case because as long as the death penalty remains there are going to be people who are innocent that are going to end up wrongly accused and sentenced. I think instead of focusing on punishing criminals we should be focusing on crime prevention by fighting poverty and implementing stricter gun control measures like the assault weapons ban and and better background checks.
    When there is irrefutable proof (such as unaltered footage of the crime that IDs the criminal), then it is not reasonable to argue that the accused may be innocent. And yes, I would reserve the use of the death penalty for such irrefutable cases.

    Fight poverty how? There will always be people that are relatively poor, due to bad luck, bad life choices, bad work ethic, etc. As always, criminals will circumvent gun control laws and will be able to reap the benefits of having a lesser-defended populace to victimize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raynebc View Post
    Fight poverty how? There will always be people that are relatively poor, due to bad luck, bad life choices, bad work ethic, etc. As always, criminals will circumvent gun control laws and will be able to reap the benefits of having a lesser-defended populace to victimize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witticus View Post
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    He killed a musical genius, a legend, a one-of-a-kind treasure.

    No, he should not be set free. Here's to hoping he stays in jail until he passes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStuddz View Post
    He killed a musical genius, a legend, a one-of-a-kind treasure.

    No, he should not be set free. Here's to hoping he stays in jail until he passes.
    So if he had just killed some guy, well a) we wouldn't be having this discussion, but b) you'd be cool with him getting out?

    This is what I meant by "political pressures." Because murdering John Lennon is suuuuuuuuuch a more heinous crime than 'plain old' murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaptonsWig View Post
    I take it you believe OJ really was innocent.
    I don't know what that has to do with this. I was a baby when the trial was going on. It's not something that I've ever looked into, so I have no strong opinions on the matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by raynebc View Post
    When there is irrefutable proof (such as unaltered footage of the crime that IDs the criminal), then it is not reasonable to argue that the accused may be innocent. And yes, I would reserve the use of the death penalty for such irrefutable cases.
    Even when it's irrefutable and when the accused is known to be guilty for a fact, I still say no. I think the harshest punishment for a murder should be life in prison. An eye for an eye is not a philosophy I subscribe too.

    Fight poverty how? There will always be people that are relatively poor, due to bad luck, bad life choices, bad work ethic, etc. As always, criminals will circumvent gun control laws and will be able to reap the benefits of having a lesser-defended populace to victimize.
    By poverty I didn't really mean bad life choices or work ethic, I more or less meant being born into it. And often is the case then is when you have nothing, sometimes illegal activities seem like the only viable options. I think adopting more economic fairness measures directly benefits the less fortunate, and in turn could lead to less crime.

    And criminals aren't necessarily circumventing laws to get weapons. The Aurora shooter acquired his arms legally. If the assault weapons ban was still in place he would not of been able to acquire the assault weapons or high-capacity magazines that he used.
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    At least we do it better than the Norwegians. Anders Breivik is "imprisoned" here. In addition to the amenities that video shows, each "prisoner" is afforded free and unlimited access to college-level education courses.

    So he gets a college degree, a kickass gym membership and a better apartment than I could ever afford, let alone actually get. All for killing 77 people, which he has confessed to doing.


 

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