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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by soup567 View Post
    Even when it's irrefutable and when the accused is known to be guilty for a fact, I still say no. I think the harshest punishment for a murder should be life in prison. An eye for an eye is not a philosophy I subscribe too.
    I disagree, but that's life. As far as "eye for an eye" goes, I don't agree that blindfolding somebody permanently (keeping them in prison for life) is a more effective or just punishment.

    By poverty I didn't really mean bad life choices or work ethic, I more or less meant being born into it. And often is the case then is when you have nothing, sometimes illegal activities seem like the only viable options. I think adopting more economic fairness measures directly benefits the less fortunate, and in turn could lead to less crime.
    The tax code is already extremely progressive. Everybody deserves a chance in life, but not endless second chances, especially when it's at somebody else's expense.

    And criminals aren't necessarily circumventing laws to get weapons. The Aurora shooter acquired his arms legally. If the assault weapons ban was still in place he would not of been able to acquire the assault weapons or high-capacity magazines that he used.
    And if he couldn't buy an assault rifle, he would have just used another weapon. Access to firearms was not a problem for him. Personally, I don't think an assault weapon is reasonably necessary to protect oneself except for in a war zone, but the anti-gun crowd just as easily goes to the other polar extreme by demanding that people not be able to carry guns in various places or at all. I read an article today where a college professor threatened that he would stop teaching class if he found any of his students had a concealed carry permit. The head of the school retaliated by saying the professor had no right to make such a threat, and if he did so he would be reprimanded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheSaidSheSaid View Post
    At least we do it better than the Norwegians. Anders Breivik is "imprisoned" here. In addition to the amenities that video shows, each "prisoner" is afforded free and unlimited access to college-level education courses.

    So he gets a college degree, a kickass gym membership and a better apartment than I could ever afford, let alone actually get. All for killing 77 people, which he has confessed to doing.
    This reminds me of the Eddie Izzard skit about famous mass murderers. Watch This
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockBandRocker View Post
    Well, Graham Chapman has been dead for close to 2 decades.

    He is no more.

    He has ceased to be.

    He's a stiff. Bereft of life.

    He's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheSaidSheSaid View Post
    Lindsey Buckingham is American????!!!!???!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??!??!?!?! !!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!!!!!??!?!?


    (no but seriously, I thought he was English. Is it the 'Buckingham' connection, or am I just an idiot?)
    Stevie Nicks is American too. The rest of Fleetwood Mac is British. Buckingham and Nicks actually recorded together before they joined the band.

    As for the topic at hand, all I can really say is I don't have too much sympathy hearing he was denied parole again. If he wanted his freedom he shouldn't have pulled the trigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soup567 View Post
    I say no in every case because as long as the death penalty remains there are going to be people who are innocent that are going to end up wrongly accused and sentenced. I think instead of focusing on punishing criminals we should be focusing on crime prevention by fighting poverty and implementing stricter gun control measures like the assault weapons ban and and better background checks.
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaptonsWig View Post
    I take it you believe OJ really was innocent.
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    I don't know what that has to do with this.
    Absolutely nothing. When you're too lazy to form a rational argument, make stuff up and change the subject. Typical right wing conversational defense mechanism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cipher_Peon View Post
    Hey, that quote was from The Nostalgia Critic!
    No, it was from Monty Python's Flying Circus. The dead parrot sketch. It's okay, but the fish-slapping dance is without equal. Note that neither of these gentlemen is Graham Chapman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numskull View Post
    When you're too lazy to form a rational argument, make stuff up and change the subject. Typical right wing conversational defense mechanism.
    Also quite typical of left wingers, for those of us paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numskull View Post
    Absolutely nothing. When you're too lazy to form a rational argument, make stuff up and change the subject. Typical right wing conversational defense mechanism.
    Buddy, I'm about as far away from a right winger as it gets. I'm a democratic socialist to be exact. Honestly, how many right wingers are against the death penalty and also support tighter gun control laws? I don't think there are that many. That alone should've given it away that I'm a progressive.
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    Soup, he was calling Claptons out for a right-wing tactic. I'm not sure how you thought he was referring to you.

    And let's end that avenue of discussion here, k? There is a "no politics" rule on the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheSaidSheSaid View Post
    Soup, he was calling Claptons out for a right-wing tactic. I'm not sure how you thought he was referring to you.

    And let's end that avenue of discussion here, k? There is a "no politics" rule on the forum.
    I kind of figured that, but there were more of my quotes in there so I was confused.
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