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    Quote Originally Posted by Epsilon82 View Post
    In what respect, though? Is it that Sony and Microsoft refuse to allow Harmonix to do what is technically feasible, or is there some technical aspect that I'm missing here?
    Microsoft doesn't allow their system to play well with other online networks. Not PSN, not Steam (Portal 2 had steam integration for PS3 and nothing for 360, for example), not anyone except GFWL on PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hodayathink View Post
    Microsoft doesn't allow their system to play well with other online networks. Not PSN, not Steam (Portal 2 had steam integration for PS3 and nothing for 360, for example), not anyone except GFWL on PC.
    You sir are correct. If memory serves me correct. It's because microsoft is so closed down compared to Sony and Steam. We are lucky we have the RB World Fb app at least we can challenge friends that way on other consoles
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    Quote Originally Posted by hodayathink View Post
    Microsoft doesn't allow their system to play well with other online networks. Not PSN, not Steam (Portal 2 had steam integration for PS3 and nothing for 360, for example), not anyone except GFWL on PC.
    I guess what I'm saying is that I fail to see how Microsoft needs to allow their system to "play well" with other networks. As long as Rock Central is getting (in a reductive example) the name of the user and the score they posted, what's stopping Rock Central from throwing that score and username into their own database with the scores and usernames from the PS3, and then just feeding that whole list out to their own leaderboards on both systems?

    Again, if you're saying that there's some kind of contractual element where Harmonix has to agree not to allow dignified XBox users to have their clever usernames appear in the same list as lowly PS3 users, that I can see Microsoft doing. I just don't see what any technical limitation would have to do with it, as long as at some point along the line Harmonix gets a string for a username and an integer for a score and then pushes those values out to leaderboards in a particular order. It would seem completely obvious that that's the case, so the only thing I can fathom causing this proverbial "segregation" is some kind of contractual agreement.

    It's not like we're talking about allowing PS3 and 360 users to play a FPS game together online. Not to minimize the game itself, of course, but at its core we're just talking about a program that effectively displays a list of names and numbers in a particular order as the extent of the online functionality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epsilon82 View Post
    I guess what I'm saying is that I fail to see how Microsoft needs to allow their system to "play well" with other networks. As long as Rock Central is getting (in a reductive example) the name of the user and the score they posted, what's stopping Rock Central from throwing that score and username into their own database with the scores and usernames from the PS3, and then just feeding that whole list out to their own leaderboards on both systems?

    Again, if you're saying that there's some kind of contractual element where Harmonix has to agree not to allow dignified XBox users to have their clever usernames appear in the same list as lowly PS3 users, that I can see Microsoft doing. I just don't see what any technical limitation would have to do with it, as long as at some point along the line Harmonix gets a string for a username and an integer for a score and then pushes those values out to leaderboards in a particular order. It would seem completely obvious that that's the case, so the only thing I can fathom causing this proverbial "segregation" is some kind of contractual agreement.

    It's not like we're talking about allowing PS3 and 360 users to play a FPS game together online. Not to minimize the game itself, of course, but at its core we're just talking about a program that effectively displays a list of names and numbers in a particular order as the extent of the online functionality.
    It's not a technical limitation at all. In fact, there was a company at E3 last year that actually, in their dev code, had the PS3 and Xbox versions of their game (a shooter) being able to play against each other. They out and out said that it would never get into their released code because Microsoft would never allow it. And Microsoft proceeded to confirm that statement. Here's an article about it:

    http://kotaku.com/5813740/i-saw-the-...0-but-you-wont

    Presumably, that could even extend as far as the in-game leaderboards. All that would need to happen is for MS to deny certification to any game that does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hodayathink View Post
    It's not a technical limitation at all. In fact, there was a company at E3 last year that actually, in their dev code, had the PS3 and Xbox versions of their game (a shooter) being able to play against each other. They out and out said that it would never get into their released code because Microsoft would never allow it. And Microsoft proceeded to confirm that statement. Here's an article about it:

    http://kotaku.com/5813740/i-saw-the-...0-but-you-wont

    Presumably, that could even extend as far as the in-game leaderboards. All that would need to happen is for MS to deny certification to any game that does it.
    Thanks...that's what I suspected, but I hadn't actually seen any concrete confirmation myself.

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    Add this username I want good competition

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    Same here, add me.

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    I play pinball too, but my heart's always been with blast and flame notes.


    I could use more friends, other than zage, to see how awful I am at this game.

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    It's really hard to manage and hold all of my 300 cross platform 1sts.

    I miss score wars. They should have done a better job implementing them because right now I keep getting score wars from the same people and it's no fun. And when i try to send a score war it's either to someone who doesn't play the game/have the song, or someone who wouldn't even do the score war anyways and let it forfeit.
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