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    Your Betrayal (BFMV DLC)- Expert Guitar Mis-Chart?

    I know this seems farfetch'd and probably never mentioned, but I'm seriously having doubts about the testing of official DLC by Harmonix. The issue I am explaining is a mis-chart in the song Your Betrayal by Bullet For My Valentine recently released in a pack with 2 other BFMV songs.

    It seems that they mis-charted the Expert Guitar track in the same sections multiple times throughout the song. It is mis-charted in that 3 specific notes are left completely out, yet are just as audible as the other notes. So it bothers me the 4+ times in the song that I play right through it, hear the note, but it clearly is left out.

    I'll be using this video and timestamps in it to explain the mis-charts.

    At 1:22 there is a series of 4 green notes. This is correct. It repeats itself again at 1:26. Correct also. Then it does a B, Y, R, O, B, Y and goes to repeat itself again.

    The problem is @1:36 with the same section of 4 notes. It should ACTUALLY be 5 notes, with the 2nd note needing another quick Green note just before it, as explained in this picture I took from the vid.
    **I understand the time says 1:30, but that section is correct, I meant to use the same set of notes at 1:36 where the 1st incorrect spot is.**

    Now this same note is omitted in the entire rest of the song when it does this. Once you "hear" the audibility of it, you can't UN-hear it, and it is somewhat annoying.

    Now, the 2nd and 3rd notes that is omitted in the same way are Sustains in the chorus. A GR and RY-Sustain to be exact. It's a single-sustain that carries over the entire part, when it should actually be 2 separate sustains of the same variety. This first appears at 2:01. You have a longer GR sustain after 2 shorter GR sustains that followed after alt-strumming Greens. The longer sustain should ACTUALLY be broken in half and a second sustain of the same chord being placed in. Again, once you hear it, you will never UN-hear it.

    The 3rd note is the same thing in the same chorus. It's after you drop from the BO and YB-chord. You encounter a RY-chord at 2:09 that, again, should be cut in half and a 2nd sustain chord of RY being placed in. This also happens in every section of the chorus of every chorus of the song.

    Don't believe me? Watch the video and listen for the audible parts. The chords are more audibly there than the Green note that's omitted throughout the song as well. Tell me this will be fixed, because I can't stand playing the song when it's inorrect like this. Or has anyone else even really noticed this mis-charting?
    Last edited by TAxxOUTBR3AKxx; 10-03-2012 at 08:24 PM. Reason: Explaining a problem in the pic.

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    You be high like a kite, and I guess you may as well stop playing the song 'cause it's not going to be "fixed" (especially since its not broken) and if its frustrating you to that end, it's not worth it.
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    this wont be fixed. and i don't hear it.
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    Could be on a different stem.


    Also, if the best you can find is three 'missing' notes in over 2,000 songs...ahem...baaaaaaaaaaaaaaw, shattered faith.
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    If you're going to go as far as to point out a problem as "small" as this (it's one note. Not worth an uprising or anything ), do something first.

    Solo out the guitar stem to where it's the only thing you hear. You do this by going into System Settings->Audio Settings->BG Music in the pause menue and turn it all the way down. Maybe they used another guitar at that part. A lot of modern metal songs like to layer multiple guitars on top of one another to make a more melodic sound.
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    @1:36, I don't see anything wrong there. The only thing wrong in the verses are the fact that all those single green notes should be green-red chords. On the real thing, those are open chords, awkward that they charted them to be single notes, but I suppose only guitar players would be able to pick out something like that. Other than that, every note is represented by a gem in the verses that I can hear. The song also has 2 guitars playing two different things during that part. Awkward to chart 2 guitars to one, so they just charted one of the guitars. You're hearing the other guitar probably.

    I agree with the chorus though, that chord gets strummed twice not just one single sustain like they charted it and you can clearly hear the guitar strum again while you're still holding the same sustained chord. Little mistakes like that are in numerous HMX released songs, it's all on what you interpret to be 'correct' and what's not. They never 'fixed' any DLC at this point and they never will, something you'll have to learn to live with. There are far worse mistakes in other songs, early RBN songs are a complete travesty when it came to charts. This is nothing.
    Last edited by Mega-Tallica; 10-03-2012 at 08:49 PM.
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    For what it's worth, I didn't hear any of these "mischarts" with the backing turned down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega-Tallica View Post
    @1:36, I don't see anything wrong there. The only thing wrong in the verses are the fact that all those single green notes should be green-red chords. On the real thing, those are open chords, awkward that they charted them to be single notes, but I suppose only guitar players would be able to pick out something like that. Other than that, every note is represented by a gem in the verses that I can hear. The song also has 2 guitars playing two different things during that part. Awkward to chart 2 guitars to one, so they just charted one of the guitars. You're hearing the other guitar probably.

    I agree with the chorus though, that chord gets strummed twice not just one single sustain like they charted it and you can clearly hear the guitar strum again while you're still holding the same sustained chord. Little mistakes like that are in numerous HMX released songs, it's all on what you interpret to be 'correct' and what's not. They never 'fixed' any DLC at this point and they never will, something you'll have to learn to live with. There are far worse mistakes in other songs, early RBN songs are a complete travesty when it came to charts. This is nothing.
    I understand where you're coming from on the first half. I expected that reply instantly. The second half, is more awkward just holding a sustain knowing it's supposed to be 2 notes. I could fix it in 5 minutes myself in Reaper, but I'm not even gonna hassle it. Just pointing it out.

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    Now let's talk about GH's charting.
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