Rock Band in 2013 and beyond

[LoopyChew]

I never mentionned cross consoles controllers, I mentionned the lack of wired instruments for PS3 and Wii, and was answering to the dude's affirmation about everything being hard work on wii. Also, official RB instrument are not wired on PS2, but third party and GH instruments are.

In that case, I presume you meant, "Why not create a wired guitar for the Wii like they did for the 360?" Which I already answered by saying, and I'll paraphrase, "they didn't want to create any wired guitar controllers in the first place, so why make more than absolutely necessary?"

I understood the following conversation between you and Mr-TyK to be "well, why not plug the Xbox controllers into a Wii?" but I evidently misread that.

[Alternity]

In that case, I presume you meant, "Why not create a wired guitar for the Wii like they did for the 360?" Which I already answered by saying, and I'll paraphrase, "they didn't want to create any wired guitar controllers in the first place, so why make more than absolutely necessary?"

I understood the following conversation between you and Mr-TyK to be "well, why not plug the Xbox controllers into a Wii?" but I evidently misread that.

Yeah sorry, I tend to say things that I want pretty badly sometimes in english. This language is too simple, it breaks my ability to translate from french accurately. lol

Edit: I want to know, how do you know that they didn'T wanted to make them, did they affirmed that at some point? Did I miss something Also, I JUUUUUST remember that the drums for RB1 on wii was wired. The guitar wasn't, though.

[Bront20]

What's the difference between creating a driver for a dongle that is used to connect a guitar wirelessly, or a driver for a wired guitar? None, aside that the coding might be different.

There's no real difference, as far as the game is concerned, the dongle IS the guitar. All the wireless connection stuff is built into the dongle and guitar as firmware.

[Bront20]

The problem then becomes the fact that something on the guitar itself says, "Hi! I'm an Xbox 360 Fender Stratocaster made by Harmonix! Please tell me which controller number I am, fellow Microsoft software!", a statement 1) which is likely licensed from Microsoft and 2) whose response is in-built by Microsoft using a private key that developers don't have.

You're talking cross platform there though, and Microsoft has strict standards for controlers that the Wii and Sony don't have. That's why there were devices to let you use wii controlers on the PS3.

[Alternity]

You're talking cross platform there though, and Microsoft has strict standards for controlers that the Wii and Sony don't have. That's why there were devices to let you use wii controlers on the PS3.

Devices? I've never heard of such things. I've heard about the homebrew scene being able to use wiimotes, but then, you can also install any OS you want, therefore windows, therefore bluetooth access, therefore, wiimote access.

[Bront20]

Devices? I've never heard of such things. I've heard about the homebrew scene being able to use wiimotes, but then, you can also install any OS you want, therefore windows, therefore bluetooth access, therefore, wiimote access.

There were fake wiimotes you could plug into the GH guitars and connect to a PS3, and there were universal dongles for a few generic guitars. They never did very well (with the market for folks with Wii and PS3 versions of guitar games), but they were out there (I watched them as a Wii player looking to move to the PS3).

[Alternity]

Oh boy. Fake wiimote? I wouldn't like this idea considering the GH instruments are detected as a classic controller by the wii, and well, I reaaaaly doubt that this would work accurately without homebrewing your PS3, unless those people really figured a way to make a kind of PS3 controller with the wiimote port on it that can detect the guitar... sounds wayy to sloppy for me.

[Bront20]

Oh boy. Fake wiimote? I wouldn't like this idea considering the GH instruments are detected as a classic controller by the wii, and well, I reaaaaly doubt that this would work accurately without homebrewing your PS3, unless those people really figured a way to make a kind of PS3 controller with the wiimote port on it that can detect the guitar... sounds wayy to sloppy for me.

Fake Wiimote as in device that uses that interface, not an actual wiimote immitation.

[LoopyChew]

Edit: I want to know, how do you know that they didn'T wanted to make them, did they affirmed that at some point? Did I miss something Also, I JUUUUUST remember that the drums for RB1 on wii was wired. The guitar wasn't, though.

They never said anything outright. I simply made an inference based on their actions--if they wanted more wired controllers, they would have made more wired controllers. But no; everything that was once wired ended up becoming wireless in the end.

[xCOLDWARRIORx]

Rock Band 4 with more and better character animations like RB2.

Edit: World Tour and/or Level Select

^ This person has it right. That's what I want because that's what keeps me on RB2 and not on RB3, thank you c-murph!