Herman Li is Cool.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

well powermetal is the topic of this thread so wut should i talk about then?? how kewl porcupine tree and radiohead are in a power metal/dragonforce thread??

[Eissian]

I met Herman Li at G3 '07 in Los Angeles. Seemed like a pretty nice guy. Definitely not a very great guitar player, but at least its clear he has excellent taste if he was at G3.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

was he just there or was he actually in the g3 lineup :\

[The_Wurm]

I don't understand this widespread hatred against the guitarists of dragonforce, really i don't.

Just to clear things up, I am by no means a fan of dragon force, but i think everyone is being a bit harsh on these guys. I agree with a lot you when you say that **insert legendary guitarist** is way better than Herman Li or Sam Boozehound, but I think you guys are being a little mean by calling them 'mediocre'.

I also agree that there music is cheesy, really cheesy, and shouldn't be taken seriously, but they know that their music is absolute cheese and don't really take themselves seriously.(Have you seen one of their music videos?, they have a guitar battle via videogames!)


wow, i can't believe i just typed more than a paragraph in order to somewut protect some dudes I don't even care about. screw it

[fragpirate]

omg, i found that eons ago.
at least five months ago.
you are sooooo late.

[Saltines]

omg, i found that eons ago.
at least five months ago.
you are sooooo late.

I saw it quite awhile ago as well, but it's still funny.

[fragpirate]

lil bit, the only part i actually laugh at is the end.

[Eissian]

I don't understand this widespread hatred against the guitarists of dragonforce, really i don't.

Just to clear things up, I am by no means a fan of dragon force, but i think everyone is being a bit harsh on these guys. I agree with a lot you when you say that **insert legendary guitarist** is way better than Herman Li or Sam Boozehound, but I think you guys are being a little mean by calling them 'mediocre'.

I also agree that there music is cheesy, really cheesy, and shouldn't be taken seriously, but they know that their music is absolute cheese and don't really take themselves seriously.(Have you seen one of their music videos?, they have a guitar battle via videogames!)


wow, i can't believe i just typed more than a paragraph in order to somewut protect some dudes I don't even care about. screw it

I think my biggest issue with DragonForce is the heavy, heavy overdubbing that they do. The things you hear on the CD are simply not performable live. Overdubbing is acceptable sometimes when technical ability isnt a focus of the music or in cases where a second guitarist is unavailable for the recording. Overdubbing is fine then. But in cases like DragonForce where half the selling point if the technical ability of the artists, overdubbing records just leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. When you see other artists like Dream Theater live, what is on the CD is what is being performed live. There are no backing tapes or other guitarists. It just seems like an immense cop-out to use heavy overdubbing in this genre of music.

[Eissian]

was he just there or was he actually in the g3 lineup :\

no he was just there. if herman li was actually in the G3 lineup my respect for joe satriani would plummet immensely. the line-up was Joe Satriani, John Petrucci, and Paul Gilbert. I went mostly for Petrucci, as did seemingly most of the people there. Gilbert got a sort of lukewarm reception at first because he isn't too well known, but the crowd started to love him more and more with every song. But Petrucci just stepped out onto the stage and the entire crowd went wild for a good five minutes. Even Petrucci himself was stunned at the fantastic reaction from the crowd.

[Brock_Landers]

heh I love people who seem to think you can only make negative comments about something if you have first-hand talent at a better level of what you're critiquing. Seems to be a popular fallback argument in the music world I've noticed; not as many people saying the same when it comes to bad movies or bad tv shows ("hey, have you ever made a better movie than The Covenent? Oh, didn't think smart guy!")

Besides, even if the theory did hold up, in turn shouldn't it mean that you also can't have a positive opinion of DragonForce unless you can play as well as Herman Li?

(For the record, I don't mind them here and there.. but the songs all start to sound the same after a short while)