Pop= Rock??

[Train05]

Wasn't it back in the 50s that Rock was actually considered Rock?

[guitarguru2112]

I don't have a straight up answer for you, but I think that rock was considered pop in the 60's and 70's because it was what was played the most on the radio (plus there wasn't rap, a lot of country, or even that many types of music). It was what rap and r&b are today. What was popular back then was called pop reguardless of the sound. I think rock was called rock and roll back then too though. Don't blame me if I'm not completley right because I wasn't alive then!

[Hamsterhitman]

I do believe that rock is still considered rock. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

=P

[defenestrater]

I tend to draw a distinction between rock and rock'n'roll, so what was done in the fifties and early sixties seems a little irrelevant to me today (in terms of categorizing the music, not the music itself). I tend to think of rock and pop as the same though, simply because both terms cover such a wide range of music, and arguably overlap each other quite a bit, that they've become useless descriptive labels.

[Ultimatum]

A lot of Rock is still considered Pop today.

[fighting69th]

A lot of Rock is still considered Pop today.

How else would we explain grunge and Green Day?

[Ultimatum]

It depends exactly which Grunge you're talking about.

Yes, a lot of Nirvana songs off Nevermind, I even remembe Cobain referring to SLTS as an attempt to be the ultimate Pop song.

But, if the bands with grit like Alice In Chains most certainly were not Pop, sure they were popular, but they most certainly weren't Pop.

[CheezerRox]

It depends exactly which Grunge you're talking about.

Yes, a lot of Nirvana songs off Nevermind, I even remembe Cobain referring to SLTS as an attempt to be the ultimate Pop song.

But, if the bands with grit like Alice In Chains most certainly were not Pop, sure they were popular, but they most certainly weren't Pop.

Damn, sir, you know you're stuff.

To me, modern pop = not rock.

[Leon]

there is “pop rock”
pop is anything thats popular so pop rock is alive and well

[guitarguru2112]

there is “pop rock”
pop is anything thats popular so pop rock is alive and well

I wish rock and roll was alive and well...