On Rock Band compatibility-

[Alphadeus]

Not for nothing but I think a lot of you are overreacting. Your suggestions to fix the problem are a bit far-fetched.

The fact of the matter is, The GH3 Les Paul was the first guitar controller to hit the scene for the PS3. It came out on october 28. As someone mentioned earlier Rock Band went gold Nov 5. There wasn't enough time to confirm that the Les Paul worked with it or not.

The reason the 360 one works is because it probably follows the standard set by the 360 X-plorer. The PS3 did not have a standard, and I don't think Activision was going to collaborate with EA to make all controllers compatible, especially considering they don't want you using any other controller in their game. Which is even more bogus than anything EA/Harmonix has done.

So theorhetically, they (Activision) could've made the PS3 guitar have a completely outrageous button mapping and it would be considered the new standard. There's really no way Harmonix could have caught this at a reasonable time. You're talking about making them go buy the game and try it out? In all honesty, why should THEY be concerned with other controllers working with their game? It was Activision/Neversoft/RedOctane that decided on the standard for PS3 guitar controllers (at least for their game- technically it's not a standard since they will block out any other non-Les Paul controller they don't make). You're putting pressure on the wrong company.

But I guess I shouldn't talk, since I don't have a PS3. But then again, I'm in the majority.

[TheVoiceOfReason]

But I guess I shouldn't talk, since I don't have a PS3. But then again, I'm in the majority.

You're right, you shouldn't.

Furthermore it's those users that bought a standalone version of the game that is quite literally unplayable that deserve to be angry and are not overreacting as you say. If Harmonix releases a game outside of a bundle, it is reasonable for the consumer to purchase it thinking that one of the other controllers on the market (the LP is the only one) will work. When the LP doesn't work, and the PS3 controller doesn't work (despite "open controller standards" or whatever other jibberish HMX is offering as an excuse), they are left with a game they cannot play and it is not overreacting to be angry about that.

[ezevthokie]

Not for nothing but I think a lot of you are overreacting. Your suggestions to fix the problem are a bit far-fetched.

The fact of the matter is, The GH3 Les Paul was the first guitar controller to hit the scene for the PS3. It came out on october 28. As someone mentioned earlier Rock Band went gold Nov 5. There wasn't enough time to confirm that the Les Paul worked with it or not.

Are you honestly trying to say that a week isn't enough time to plug in the USB dongle, boot the game and see what happens? That might be the most unbelievable non-HMX staff statement I've ever heard.

[Gryffindor]

Perhaps our guitar is broken. It doesn't register all the notes and the strum bar is so incredibly difficult (tight) to move that during fast notes there's no way to hit them all. However, I do love the way the fret buttons are laid out. If they could fix the strummer I'd be happy with the Fender.

On the compatiblity issue there is definite cause for legal action IMO. Both the game and the box state that the game is compatible with most other guitar controllers. There's only ONE other game controller and that's the ones for Guitar Hero. They flat out LIED to the public and should have made an announcement on their main web page ........ yet, do you see any such announcement on their MAIN page? Nope.

I want to see a patch and soon. You can't tell me that SOMEBODY out there doesn't have the programming skills to remedy this problem? I'd be willing to bet that some ambitious programmer, not affiliated with HMX will come up with the patch prior to HMX getting off of their asses to make one.

[Alphadeus]

First off, I'm not saying the people who bought the standalone game hoping it would work and it doesn't shouldn't be pissed. All I'm saying is that they're pointing the gun at the wrong people.

And yes, I honestly don't think a week (hell even two weeks) is enough time. I don't understand what you guys think Harmonix DOES. They made an awesome video game. I'm sure the last thing on their mind was wondering if the Les Paul works with their game. Why SHOULD they have to go out of their way to make the game compatible with the Les Paul when Guitar Hero III isn't compatible with the Rock Band Guitar? They shouldn't have to run out to the store and buy up every goddamm controller on the market BEFORE THE GAME IS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC and check each and every one (in this case, one) for absolute functionality. You guys ask for way too much.

I can imagine it's frustrating, but it wasn't intentional and I'm positive it's being worked on. If all you're complaining about is that you want it fixed, then getting it fixed will stop your complaining. However, if you're complaining that they didn't fix it quick enough, then you're spoiled rotten and no amount of fixing will ever fix YOU.

[Gryffindor]

I'm sure the last thing on their mind was wondering if the Les Paul works with their game. Why SHOULD they have to go out of their way to make the game compatible with the Les Paul when Guitar Hero III isn't compatible with the Rock Band Guitar? They shouldn't have to run out to the store and buy up every goddamm controller on the market BEFORE THE GAME IS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC and check each and every one (in this case, one) for absolute functionality. You guys ask for way too much.

You're missing the false advertising aspect of this entire scenario. The bundle box and the game case itself both state that it is compatible with most other guitar game controllers. It's only compatible with one - theirs. How convenient for them.

[Alphadeus]

You're missing the false advertising aspect of this entire scenario. The bundle box and the game case itself both state that it is compatible with most other guitar game controllers. It's only compatible with one - theirs. How convenient for them.

Exactly. Which is why I'm saying people are attacking the wrong company. With so little time between the release of the Les Paul and Rock Band shipping, there was no way to determine the Les Paul for the PS3 would be incompatible and have a fix in time. People are saying that Harmonix should have went out to buy a Les Paul the day it came out to determine if it was truly compatible, but I honestly think that's asking too much.

This is what I'm trying to get at. Before the PS3 Les Paul there WAS no standard for guitar controllers. RedOctane could map any PS3 button to any fret as they saw fit. There was no way Harmonix could have known what mappings they were going to use because RedOctane wasn't going to tell them.

They knew how the 360 x-plorer worked, so they could easily make it compatible with Rock Band. With this fact in mind, it's obviously not Harmonix's fault.

if PS3 games can be patched (ha i'm such a noob ) I'm sure they'll come out with a fix. What concerns me though is from what I understand, The Les Paul registers as a Sixaxis controller, which sounds like it means complications for making it compatible. Considering the Sixaxis controller is supposed to be the controller for the Microphone. I don't know enough about this stuff, but fixing the Guitar might be harder than just remapping the buttons. It might screw with other things.

All I'm saying is they need more than a week to fix this problem. Maybe the fact that they haven't really been defending themselves is a sign they are working hard on the issue.

Right now it seems like false advertising, but in all honesty, it just seems like an honest mistake. And the blame falls more on RedOctane than Harmonix.

[Gryffindor]

Red Octane never once stated that the Rock Band guitar - nor any other guitar would work with their game. I don't see them at fault at all.

Harmonix made RB and advertised that other game controllers would work - they don't. It's that simple.

[jedbeetle]

if it were the case that just the GHIII controller didn't work, it would be easy enough to apply blame to Red Octane. But it is the case that no other guitars will work with the PS3 version of RB. It is Harmonix' issue and their responsibility to tell us what they plan to do about it. And then do it.

[TheVoiceOfReason]

Red Octane never once stated that the Rock Band guitar - nor any other guitar would work with their game. I don't see them at fault at all.

Harmonix made RB and advertised that other game controllers would work - they don't. It's that simple.

Exactly. Harmonix makes the claim on their box that the software is compatible with most music controllers that exist outside of the theirs in the bundle. Since there are only two controllers you could possibly play this with (the LP and the regular PS3 controller) and neither of them work, this advertisement is false.

If you buy the stand-alone you are COMPLETELY unable to play the game. I find it hard to believe that others on this forum can't see through their own Harmonix Fanboyism to see that it isn't right to sell someone a game that isn't playable.

The stand-alone should have been held until feb when the guitars are for sale, the fact that it was release seems to point to the fact that HMX thought the game could be played with something and someone screwed up along the way.